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We've been waiting for that one oolong time.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I'm green with envy. Dunno what's brewing and don't want to stir the pot, so I'd better leaf while I can.
/ravi
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No need to leave, this forum is steeped in civility, the folks here don't pekoe into areas they shouldn't.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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The latte fancy's himself a poet. Get on wit' 'yer work.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Oh please! No beverage puns toddy! I infuse to get involved in this soak-called thread.
(thereupon, he Lipton his horse and road into the sunset).
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They must be; why else would Jamaica Blue Mountain?
Ad astra - both ways!
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and on those days when the creativitea isn't flowing ya should just grin and ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) it.
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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...As long as it's Earl Grey. Hot.
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Iced Tea what you did there! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I'm essentially retired (though just starting a big new project for a previous client...) but even so continue to browse Code Project. I've noticed quite a few contributors saying "I'm retired now, but..." and wondered just how many of us have hung up our mice for the last time (There must be a better analogy but I've not come across it).
Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it? Or do we hang around in the CP lounge because the virtual ex-colleagues there are the only friends we have, and we have nothing better to do...
Just curious...
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DerekTP123 wrote: Are we retirees actively developing new code/projects of our own? Tinkering with support for ex-clients? Learning brand new skills / technologies just for the love of it?
Yes, without deadlines or managers.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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Mike Hankey wrote: Yes, without deadlines or managers.
The two main things that take the fun out of work!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Yep and sick the life out of you.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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Mike Hankey wrote: Yes, without deadlines or managers.
Amazing how that improves quality and productivity, isn't it?
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Find my blood pressure lower and attitude much improved also.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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Don't forget to mention the so called 'manager's' who poop on you for each deadlines.
The best way to make your dreams come true is to wake up.
Paul Valery
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Without meetings either. Those are quite the time wasters, especially when managers are involved.
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At least in the US, unless you were fortunate enough to inherit a ton of money or managed to save a lot via a successful business, there is no real expectation of retirement. The idea is to continue working into your 60s and 70s, perhaps fewer hours a week. Otherwise your standard of living will certainly fall.
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Something like what you said.
For me, when I stop taking the company check, I've already heard they're putting me out to stud.
Good pay. Good hours. But some of those clients? Double-baggers!
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Really? I cant believe that. 
Arent the salaries not high enough to save for retirement or is job not so lucrative?
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Well, if you work from 23 to 60, that's 37 years of employment. If you can save 1/3 of your income, that should cover 19 years (assuming 0 growth), and around 25 years (assuming 10-15% growth). But in reality very few people can save that much. Especially as budgeting is not a skill people have these days. Families with 100K household income drive luxury cars (they also lease instead of buying used), people wear designer clothing (3x the cost of normal clothes), spend a ton on eating out, upgrading phones/gadgets every 2 years, etc. There was a study recently that said 50% of Americans have less than 10K saved up.
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Perhaps it's all true. Studies find what they want to find - but I don know that a lot of employees where I work make comparatively low pay and yet will buy $200 boots because they'll be in style for a few months.
But, it's there own fault. In the grand scheme, unless they hope and plan to die young, they're living far beyond their means.
So I had small cars, bought mostly used and kept until they weren't worth fixing. If any of my neighbors thought I should be more stylish they could buy me something better. Ordering lunch every day at work, instead of bringing it? That's thousands of dollars/year. Upgrading phones? WTF for? And spend a kilobuck on it - well, it's like this - I won't shed a tear for someone who's spent it all on short term goals. I can quit working whenever I want. Can travel, buy things, and not skip a beat. Not because my pay was high (it never was) but because I learned how to live with what I had and have enough of it saved to keep doing just that.
With a little luck, Social Security will tide them through. Or, maybe it's time for payback in a biblical style: after the fat years come the lean years, and the fat years were forgotten as a consequence of the lean years.
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What? You work like a bee and live like a rat? All those saving wouldn't do you any good it you should hit by a truck tomorrow. On the other hand if you should live to 100 years old, well it helps. Its a "IF".
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