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Congratulations Richard,
I've never liked the QA system... it's difficult to have a conversation in there. The design is formatted as if an answer will always be a single post. Plus that's where 99% of the homework questions end up.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Thanks David, and I agree with your comment. But, just occasionally, there is a post in QA which is well thought out and well presented. It's the golden moments that make up for all the dross in life.
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Q&A or anything else, it it's available it will be abused.
One can shut down everything that is misused and, eventually end up with nothing.
You can also accommodate those who are making proper use of a facility, and ignore the rest.
One might even cagoule the abusers (gently) into doing their own work or they're really headed into the wrong field. Just sending them the answer's not going to help them as much as having them discover it.
All of us once, now, and in the future, may need a nudge in the right direction. One of the things (most of us, I hope) have learned is how to dig in or stand back, trying to discover the problem - and thereby discover the answer.
Primarily, if I answer, I'll tell the Q'er what they need to do to find their problem and point them along the way with hints/suggest/&etc. so they can do it (and end up the better for it) or try to find someone who will "help" with a direct answer so they can avoid learning anything. Often links to W3Schools - only the laziest won't spend a day to become more than they were in the morning.
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Congratulations! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In my mind, you've been at the top for years, at that olympian summit shrouded in mists composed of equal parts Griffium, MacCutchanite, Cliftonium, OHanlonium, Barberite, Patynium, and more!
nevertheless, congratulations from one who feels always privileged to study your work.
cheers, Bill
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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Thank you, you are far too kind.
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Anticipate that old Scottish chap will fill up with colour (7)
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
modified 17-May-18 4:39am.
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Predict
Pict = old scotsman
red = colour
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Blimey! That was quick.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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I predicted you would say that 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Everybody with a computer and an Excel sheet now thinks they can program.
If you tell them you're a "programmer", or even a "developer", they start telling you your job.
And trying to explain that there's a difference, seems to have no effect.
I'm thinking, as "Logicians", we may be able to paint a clearer picture; and establish proper "ground rules" for the next project:
Living, Working, and Generally Dealing with Logicians.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Never come across this. Usually people who use computers and have an interest are very respectful of the complexity of our work.
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They'd just tell you that their system of Logic is different, and equally as valid as yours. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Yes, I only saw one reference to "We’re probably in the wrong here" and this was followed up with "but that’s just how we see it".
I once heard a good quote on this area - "There's nobody who is less rational than a rational person", which does fit with my experience.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: "There's nobody who is less rational than a rational person"
That's totally irrational.
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You beat me to it (+).
Let me feed you another one:
"It's the exception that proves the rule"
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W∴ Balboos wrote: "It's the exception that proves the rule"
Makes perfect sense if you apply the correct interpretation:
... the presence of an exception applying to a specific case establishes ("proves") that a general rule exists.
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exceptio probat regulam in casibus non exceptis ("the exception confirms the rule in cases not excepted")
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Of course, since the are now known to be exceptions to said rule then the such a rule cannot be relied upon - thus it is not a rule.
Why not just call it what it is: A good bet.*
* And don't even begin to consider "The Rule of Law" !
also - the quoted text (w/latin below) is written - but that doesn't make it correct
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W∴ Balboos wrote: since the are now known to be exceptions to said rule then the such a rule cannot be relied upon
No, I don't think you've understood the explanation.
Quote: For example, a sign that says "parking prohibited on Sundays" (the exception) "proves" that parking is allowed on the other six days of the week (the rule).
And: Quote: A more explicit phrasing might be "the exception that proves the existence of the rule."
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote:
No, I don't think you've understood the explanation. 
Quote: For example, a sign that says "parking prohibited on Sundays" (the exception) "proves" that parking is allowed on the other six days of the week (the rule).
That, my friend, is a leap-of-faith.
What you do know does not give you information about what you do not know. Not, at least, until the point where you know everything that is to be know, including that you know that you know everything that is to be know, about all other possibilities.
E.g: suppose said sign was in a village which had no on-street parking, except on Sundays. This is only adding to the rules for that particular street, excluding Sunday, as well. Q.E.D.
With the above possibility, it know gives a counter example to an invalid concept that, itself, is "proven" with invalid proof.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: E.g: suppose said sign was in a village which had no on-street parking, except on Sundays. This is only adding to the rules for that particular street, excluding Sunday, as well. Q.E.D.
In which case, the sign would say "No parking at any time". Putting up a sign saying "No parking on Sundays" - without also adding "in addition to the existing parking prohibition covering all other days of the week" - would just cause confusion.
If there is no sign, then the ambient rules apply. If there is a sign, then the rules on the sign are the rules that apply. If the sign says "No parking on Sundays", then that is the only restriction that applies.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: In which case, the sign would say "No parking at any time".
Only because you want that to be used. There is, again, a leap of faith that such wording would be used.
That wording, however, may be used where needed by expanding the little hamlet's rules:
No parking anywhere, except on Sunday, except holidays in shopping districts.
There can be any number of rules that are not taken into account by your initial sign. It's only information is "No Parking Sunday" - Everything which is not forbidden is allowed - Wikipedia[^] - but here's "The Rule" one could compose for this, a corollary, if you will.
You need to know, unambiguously, what is forbidden. Incomplete information is not an excuse to modify reality to fit one's limited perception of the situation.
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Exactly!
I must therefore be a logician.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Quote: There's nobody who is less rational than a rational person
Uncle Π is.
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