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It was dolly parton singing it, it was just so wet, so pathetic.
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Any suggestions? I haven't even decided on an O/S yet. Bare and naked - except for 4GB of DDR4 included. This[^], the RAM added US$15.
It's definitely not the high-end. Easier to justify entertaining myself with whatever I way it turns up.
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Seems like a good pick. I have something similar, a bit more CPU, with Linux Mint.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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FWIW - My NUC (NUC7i5BN, 16Gb RAM, 1TB Samsung SSD, Windows 10) is a bit unstable. A year's worth of Windows updates and driver updates have improved matters but she's still wonky now and then.
If she boots and stays happy for 3-4 minutes she's usually good for hours - but 1 in 10 or 15 times she'll crash hard during boot or immediately after.
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Well - if I do windows it'll be Win7. So far, current version's pretty stable - although I still miss XPsp3.
So many directions to go in. A Linux media box? A home server (low power makes that sensible)? Maybe even a network server - isolated from my clean systems (just-in-case), and a website?
Well - it was my father's day present for myself - so I'm accountable to no one !
Nyah ha hah!
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Have you checked the Intel site for drivers? I found that Windows 10 definitely needed them, rather than whatever Microsoft supplied as the default.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Have you checked the Intel site for drivers?
Yep. I use Intel's fancy driver update utility. Stability has definitely improved in the last few months. One BIOS update seemed to have the biggest effect.
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I have a similar device (older generation, i3) running Windows 10 as my TFS server. If you install any version of Windows, I suggest that you look at the Intel site for any relevant drivers. These drivers are not necessarily downloaded via Windows Update.
My NUC has been running for months now without any problems, so running Windows 10 definitely works.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Thanks for the driver thoughts. I was hoping that (at least) it would include sufficient video drivers so I can set it up.Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Windows 10 definitely works.
Not on any of my systems.
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I agree win7 (as you mentioned) has the edge over linux should you want to turn it into an entertainment box. Sure linux can do the movies etc but it's lighter on the games.
- that is guessing being a bit over 14 years old you're probably not into fast action shoot-em-up games... there's some great strategy / thinking games out there (that btw also don't need triple-quad-GPU's and nitrogen cooled CPU's).
Plus linux is more fiddly to set up if you switch between different monitors (TV's) with different specs - a lot less automagic than windoms - same too for add-ons like universal remotes, paddles, joysticks, x-ray goggles...
Linux is great if you want to spend half of your time on the box fiddling with it, windows 7 better if you just want to sit back, plug stuff in and use it. (in fact even better than XPsp3 when it comes to just plug something in and use it.)
And win-7 beats win-10 in that no worries whenever it updates of "will it or wont it work" - notwithstanding waiting an hour for the update to finish to find out (during which you cant turn it off, or say watch a movie or play a game.)
7 is the only sensible choice if all you want to do is use it for the very reason you bought it for.
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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So far, my only game is Dungeon Crawl (Stone Soup) and my concession to modernity is using the tiled version. There seems to be a version for everything.
Somewhere down the line I'll probably get into VR goggle (X-Ray Specs are passe)[^] At which time, I'll probably need to get more computing power than any of my current systems have.
Not making it a choice, but Ubuntu had a media version - I might look into that if it's to become a media box.
Here's a thought, obviously wishful thinking: if this were Linux based and used as one of the household media boxes, it's a way to get Mrs. Wife more accustomed to not-Windows and not-Android (we don't do Apple). The interface is functionally the same - getting rid of any hesitancy and fear.
As for the fooling around to do things consideration - isn't that what we do, here? Thanks for additional input into the pool of "OK, now what?" considerations.
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Lopatir wrote: linux is more fiddly to set up if you switch between different monitors (TV's) with different specs
With respect, that comment reflects history, not the current situation. My primary laptop, running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, has no trouble with external monitors of all shapes and sizes, VGA or HDMI connected or even a USB to DMI dongle. I just looked, it has cached setups for nine different monitors it has encountered. Plugging any of those in again, it doesn't even have to think about setup.
The only device I've had any problem with it recognising is a no-name USB 5.1 "sound card". And IIRC Win10 doesn't like it either.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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My NUC is the only system I interact with directly in my home office. It's hooked up to a 4K 40" TV and two 1080p monitors (via USB3 video adapters), and I spend my days in RDP sessions into VMs running on a host I have in another room. So, it doesn't matter at all that my local machine isn't as fast as one might expect nowadays. RAM was cheap when I got mine, so I maxed it out (16GB), and being an i5, it can comfortably run a VM or two or three on its own. I'm not sure Hyper-V runs on Celeron processors however (although I suppose you could use VMware or VirtualBox). But clearly, with only 4GB, that's not your goal here.
Still - I'd bump it up to 8GB and never think about it again. Any fairly recent OS will just keep running more smoothly with the extra RAM.
Given it's a NUC...I'd say unless you're comfortable fiddling with Linux drivers, stick to Windows...any version.
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I ![Heart | [heart]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/love.gif) my GigaByte Brix[^] (that I bought 2 years ago). Fed it a 500GB fast write Samsung SSD and 16GB of RAM and have never looked back. It's quiet as a mouse and allows my VS compiles to scream to completion!
/ravi
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i7, 5x the cost. I just got it as a play thing.
Now I feel inadequate.
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Ah, OK. Mine is a dev box that has the added advantage of joining me in my briefcase on overseas trips (where I have access to a full-size monitor, keyboard and mouse). #OldSchool
/ravi
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Great devices. I have two of them running Win10 without any issues.
Sorry. Be back soon it wants to do an update 
A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong
A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.
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It's definitely justified in so many ways! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
Mark Twain
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Now I'm convinced.
There's no justice in this world.
Or are you referring to justice fried?*
* No ketchup necessary.
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No, you can use a loop here.
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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Publishers Latin - meaningless. Having a senior moment? 
Never mind - serves me right for reading posts from the top down!
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: serves me right for reading posts from the top down!
What was that about senior moments?
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Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Touche!
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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