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JAPMP (Just Another Perpetual Motion Machine).
But I tend to agree. The term Jackass-of-All-Trades, Master-of-None is really finding many devotees.
We used to hate school - but we learned to read, write, do math, history, geography. All kinds of stuff. Now - schools fun - maybe because no one stresses anything that might be stressful.
I made my kids do math without a calculator until high school. Even there, only when required. The result is that none are innumerate. All read books. If for no other reason than by default, they're generally the "smartest person in the room" - I can't tell, considering the competition, if they're really that smart compared to their co-workers, &etc.
Build better engineers - or more importantly - better scientists. Somehow get them to understand that an interesting job requires work. The ability to handle failure(s). Swim with the tide - and against it.
And you don't need to fit in or have everyone like you.
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NO.
I did something similar once.
This was escalated and as a consequence I was told by several people that I was not "mature" enough to handle feedback.
%&@!@#&*!!!
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: But seriously how you should answer someone, who try to write a peace of software and missing all the basics of how things are moving around. They maybe got a course or book on how to write loops and methods and classes, but that's all...
Well... at least he is still trying it himself and asking you why it doesn't work / where is the error, not showing 0% effort and asking you to do it for him.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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This is a variant of the "giving a man a fish" vs. "teaching him how to fish" debate.
As someone else said here, I believe that the correct approach to someone so clueless is to recommend a good book that contains question assignments. Once they try the assignments, they will either improve, or realize that programming isn't for them.
(If they don't even try the assignments, we definitely don't want them as programmers!)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: If they don't even try the assignments, we definitely don't want them as programmers!
The masters of the guild have weighed you. They measured you. And they have found you wanting.
Guards, throw him out! First out of our guild hall, then out of the town!
The best programmers I know behave like cats. They are extreme individualists who don't care much about some assignments and also don't come when you call their names. Expecting them to demonstrate that they are carved out of the right wood by doing assignments is kindof strange.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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CodeWraith wrote: The best programmers I know behave like cats.
they very probably wouldn't have the errors that the OP is commenting, and where we are answering 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Ok. The other extreme would be to get a drill instructor and put them into a boot camp. Literally. I have both trained young promising CodeCats and been an instructor (after the young heroes finished boot camp). This way you would probably get fine code monkeys and those I would not want to have.
I need a perfect, to the point answer as I am not aware of this.
Please don't reply explaining what method overloading is
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You missed at least part of my point. I was not referring to the best and brightest among us, but to someone who is (from the OP's description) completely hopeless at programming.
Even the best and brightest among us didn't spring fully-formed from Zeus' head full of the wisdom of the ages. Getting to the top of our profession is anything but easy!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Your voice speaks with wisdom, Daniel. I listen.
cheers, Bill
«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)
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Kob kun krub
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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My experience is that the less people know the more they overestimatw their skills.
Do it politly with some advice for a basic course and a link. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Maybe something like:
Well - you spent your school years posting so others would do your homework for you.
Now - you post for others to do your job for you since you never tried it, yourself.
So, tell us - do you do your wife or ask someone to do that for you, too?
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: peace of software
You should be wary of telling people to go back to school whilst typing the above...
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Sometimes, I will write a message (as a comment) suggesting that the OP needs to review the "basics," and providing links to some (free) C# books.
But, lately, I seem to have less patience, perhaps because of my vision problems, and I just ignore the whacko posts.
I am glad to see we don't have anyone actively "terrorizing" the QA posters in the last year !
I share a concern that Daniel Pfeffer has also expressed about those QA responders who are actually writing complete code solutions, essentially handing the OP their "finished assignment," rather than trying to teach.
I continue to believe that people do not respect what they "get for free," and that CP demands too little of QA posters.
cheers, Bill
«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)
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I have a potential USA-based client, a small business, that has a need for a web application. Their application will have roughly 50 users, essentially a server for small files.
I'm researching hosts that are stable, have good support, are easy to deal with, and relatively inexpensive. Can I get recommendations?
Thanks!
[Yeah, I know I'm asking for the sun, the moon, and the stars -- and will probably have to settle for something less.  ]
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Step 0 : Roll your own.
Step 1 : Profit.
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I do that. I offer Plesk based webhosting with not too many restrictions.
One .com-Domain included, from $30 each year.
Service includes user level ssh-access, custom dns-settings and much more.
Just send me a PM and we may talk about it.
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Thanks, but I'm not interested in running the hosting. Just looking for a setup for customers which is stable, easy to use (for them), and hassle free (for me).
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Yes, that's exactly what you'd get.
There's a demo account to try it out:
https://cumulu.org:8443/
Username:
demo
Password:
showcase
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If they're behind a static IP, why don't they just the server themselves?
If they can afford $60/mo or so, a micro-server on Amazon is great. Or you could look at Azure.
Otherwise, there's various reasonable hosting sites out there, but I haven't used them in ages, so others will have to make a recommendation in that arena.
Marc
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This is a small business, totally non-technical. I can't imagine them hosting anything themselves. This is not to denigrate them; tech-stuff is not their arena.
The app is not a robust one, it simply collects information from a single source and serves the information out to customers each day.
Azure may be more affordable. Thanks!
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BryanFazekas wrote: The app is not a robust one, it simply collects information from a single source and serves the information out to customers each day.
Heh. Sounds like it could be implemented on an rPi sitting in the janitor's closet.
Seriously, they don't need to know anything about hosting, sounds like all you need to do is set up a box for them that runs a web server, configure the router to for port 443, set up an SSL certificate and auto-renewal, register a domain, point it to their static IP, ...
Ah, ok, I see your point. 
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Seriously, they don't need to know anything about hosting, sounds like all you need to do is set up a box for them that runs a web server, configure the router to for port 443, set up an SSL certificate and auto-renewal, register a domain, point it to their static IP, ...
Yup!
This could run on a PI3, probably a Pi Zero. For this client I don't think that's the best choice, but I'm keeping that in mind. I've got one of each (PI3, zero W) and need to play more with them.
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My AWS administration experience is limited, but I would second something like Azure or AWS... mainly because of the level of control you get with it is very much akin to a VPS. Or you could just get a VPS, but typically with those you don't get the fancy web interfaces to control it as much as you do with cloud-based environments.
Jeremy Falcon
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Tell them to use Linux... n00bs. 
Jeremy Falcon
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