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CDP1802 wrote: You are not the customer we are looking for!' and I simply agree.
I guess I am the "idiot" customer because I don't have problems with them.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Just indications, at least that kind of proof would not hold up in court.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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And since you have had problems with their software, that makes you the non-idiot.
So very clear and rational. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: And since you have had problems with their software, that makes you the non-idiot.So very clear and rational.
Nope. I did not say anything like that. I said that I do not want to be treated like a muggle. If that automatically makes you one, then so be it.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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You said, "They want idiots for customers and that's what they are going to get."
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yes. It's not so smart to play along with 'take it or leave it'. They just will include more and more great ideas into that deal. There is really only one option: Leave it and let them think about what they might have done wrong.
It already worked with Weight, and that's exactly why they went a little overboard with the forced updates to Win 10. They obviously have not learned it yet.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: It's not so smart to play along with 'take it or leave it'
It seems to me that Software is the only thing (or one of a few things maybe) where people think they own it and everything about it. For example, you take your pants exactly as they come. You just deal with how they are. Same thing with your car. You don't complain that the GPS sends data for feedback. You don't complain that the steering is not exactly as you want it, you just deal with it. You buy a banana at the store and if there is a small bruise, you don't take it back. You just deal with it. You "take it" with nearly everything in life. But software seems to get people near violent.
I just don't understand that kind of thinking.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: It seems to me that Software is the only thing (or one of a few things maybe) where people think they own it and everything about it. For example, you take your pants exactly as they come. You just deal with how they are. Same thing with your car. You don't complain that the GPS sends data for feedback. You don't complain that the steering is not exactly as you want it, you just deal with it. You buy a banana at the store and if there is a small bruise, you don't take it back.
No. That's utter BS. I leave products I don't like and will not pay one cent for something I don't want. If there are alternatives, fine. If not, then let's forget the whole thing, Just keep your junk.
If Mickeysoft (and obviously their fanbois) think that there are no alternatives and that they get away with everything they like, then it's high time to teach them otherwise.
RyanDev wrote: It seems to me that Software is the only thing (or one of a few things maybe) where people think they own it and everything about it.
And again you saddle up the horse from the wrong side. I indeed own all those things once I bought then and can use them as I see fit. Software is the only thing everyone wants to disown me of, even that which I write myself.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: even that which I write myself.
You mean when you build it on top of someone else's hard work? 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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CDP1802 wrote: They want idiots for customers and that's what they are going to get in the long run.
Amen, Brother. I couldn't have said it better myself*.
Apple and android are trying to make their customers smarter, which is the exact opposite -- and guess where the profits are always made.
* Given how I manage to play with the English language, that's a hell of a compliment!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You're preaching to the converted; ryandev knows that windows has turned to cr@p -- but he still makes the majority of his income from the wu mao he gets from promoting them in places like CP.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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They were just thinking, "How do we maximize uptime?"
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That's one way to do it.  
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I have to just add here that there are few things I enjoy more than watching win server 2012 R2 installation desperately trying to automatically update an air-gapped server.
Yes, you can turn off automatic updates, but it still begs -- and whenever you update from a Pope-blessed, Hellfire-purified memory stick, it begs and pleads to be switched back on again.
I never knew I had any sadism in me, until windows turned to cr@p.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's 6 years I'm away from any Linux distro, first by necessity (I was in a place with no Internet and a brand new laptop nor the installation discs) then because with win7 I haven't felt the need of Linux. My experience with linux comprise Mandrake 8.1 and 9, Debian 4, 5 and 6, Slackware 10 and 11, Suse notSureWhich it hink 9, Red Hat 8, a bunch of Ubuntu and several others I forgot.
In each and every of these versions, with three different computers I had something refusing to work - and I'm perfectly capable of recompiling a kernel and hacking my way through the configuration files. At first it was X11 which refused to start, then I couldn't activate the HyperThreading and insert a CD-ROM - it kernel panicked, then other problems I forgot, Ubuntu supported a lot more drivers than Debian but a lot less developing tools and merging package repository ended up with an unusable unstable system.
Even with a lot of practice and knowledge there wasn't anything more than the bare minimum, held together by terrible GUI apparently developed by schizophrenics sociopaths. Hardware is barely supported, printing is hellish, 3D acceleration worked 1 time out of 10 (meaning no support for old games on VMWare). Every FLOSS software is incomplete and incompatible with each other, requiring chains of dozens of softwares to have something done.
I enjoyed my time with Linux, but it is really way too much trouble. Would I host a server on Linux? probably yes, once set it's as stable as stable can be. Would I use it on my workstation? As of now, not. Until MS will mangle Windows enough that it will become more costly and tiring than Linux (and it's going very fast in that direction) I won't.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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den2k88 wrote: but it is really way too much trouble.
Agreed.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yesterday I bought a dirt cheap laptop for 180 EUR. (Acer cloudbook 11) It comes with Windoze10 preinstalled. I have not opened the box yet.
Here is the plan:
I will never boot the thing with that so-called operating system. I will boot from a bootable Ubuntu USB schtick, and install that. Blowing that other barely mentionable thing into oblivion.
To be continued...
... such stuff as dreams are made on
modified 6-Mar-17 6:13am.
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I'm actually surprised, but Win10 on the WookieTab works well. (Shock! Horror! Heresy!)
Probably, it's having touch as well as mouse that does it (and avoiding Metro apps).
Mind you, It's quite possible that Win7 would work even better ...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Trying to help a cow-orker with a win10 laptop, I didn't find the old "Find..." tool. Of course the interface is all mangled, then I did the smart thing: keyboard shortcuts are fundamentally unchanged since Win95, so I press Win + F... only to find that now it opens a useless "Facebook Hub". Is that a Pc or is that an elephnating toy?!? No, don't answer...
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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"Feedback hub", not "FarceBook hub", but no doubt that's coming.
Cartina has taken over all searching, but she's not that good at it ... powered by Bong, you know.
If you are looking for a file then WIN+E and File Explorer will give you a search box on the right hand side.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Cartina has taken over all searching, but she's not that good at it ... powered by Bong, you know.
I'm forced to use Bong since google is not within the accessible site. I know.
OriginalGriff wrote: If you are looking for a file then WIN+E and File Explorer will give you a search box on the right hand side.
It wasn't working: searching for a piece of filename in a file I had right in front of my eyes didn't yield any result. I wished to try the old search interface which is a bit more reliable, but apparently it worked so it had to be taken away in order to have a uniform system.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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The first thing I do when I install 10, is to disable Cortana and pop-up ads. 10 has been humming along very nicely for me for over a year now. 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Be fair.
At least if you have to write a business e-mail, the OSK gives you a couple of hundred emojis, so you can keep up a professional image.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'd like an OSK with a couple of hundred tortures / punishments / deaths for my customer and a part of cow-orkers. That would be an incentive for me to buy win10 - and for the aforementioned to tread carefully.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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You can reconfigure the OSK to give you a full "normal" keyboard with no emojiis:
Settings...devices...Typing
Set "Add the standard keyboard layout" to "On"
Open the OSK, and hit the "keyboard button" in the bottom right.
In the popup, select the far right option button.
Now you have ALT, TAB, and a Fn button for function keys.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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