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We have a large corporate client that is asking for our Windows 10 software (network service) and Windows mobile 6.5 hardware/software to be Penetration (PEN) tested. Does anyone out there have any experience in this area?
1. Recommend a vendor to provide PEN-testing
2. Suggest what it might cost to PEN-Test a Windows application and/or a device
3. Have suggestions to avoid hazards in going down this unknown road?
We are being given results back from Qualys w.r.t. how our system performs. Anyone have experience with them?
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See my post below 
Just be sure that pen test != DDoS attack 
Last year we got some good results that helped us secure the system though.
We even learned a thing or two in the process 
The costs depend on the size of your system.
A coworker told me the pen test at his previous employer took three to four weeks (for a team of 2-4) and cost about €40.000,-.
That was a big system.
Our current pen test takes about a week and I don't know the costs involved.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Our current pen test takes about a week and I don't know the costs involved.
When the lawsuit's over, you should be at least a million up on the deal.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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No one is suing anyone over a slow system.
This isn't America
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Sander -
If you can find out who gave you good results, I would love to hear from whom.
David
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Best I don't, they're the same people that DDoSed us yesterday 
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What you really want is a Vulnerability Assessment, which may or may not include a pen test. If they're insisting on that, it's fine, but a pen test alone will only give you specific details, not an actual overview of system vulnerabilities (and therefore a road map as to how to fix it).
Just make sure it's an established security consultant (if they've been in business less than a year, move on) and that they hold a certain level of certification (SANS, CISSP, etc). Any consultant or service worth their salt should be able to provide references.
If the client has a specific parameter for who they want, or what accreditation they hold, and they're really that big of a client, it's likely best to follow their model.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Benjamin -
(I feel like a broken record here) - do you have any recommendations that have done good jobs for you?
Thanks,
David
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I have used several companies in the past most recently NCC (recommended) and Pentura. Both UK based.
Costs approx £5-10,000 for a system with 2 web services, one web portal and an Android app.
Main suggestion is to get them to include a "re-visit" of issues found once you think you have fixed them - there will be vulnerabilities .
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Thanks and great suggestion on having them revisit the site afterwards.
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One of our large corporate clients had some organization do penetration testing for us a couple of years ago. Some good feedback, some crap.
However, when it came to "o.k., who's going to pay for implementing all this?", nothing happened. I wonder what ever became of that information.
So, before setting out on this, make sure that someone has the wherewithal to actually act upon the results, or don't waste time.
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Ok, time to lower the tone 'cos this topic recently came up at work and I'm not allowed to do this in the office.
Cue Eric Idle ...
Penetration Testing? Nudge nudge. Know what I mean. Nods as good as a wink to blind budgerigar. Say no more squire. Say no more.
(Nudge Nudge - Monty Python's Flying Circus - YouTube[^]
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Got some initial prices for Pen Test from a vendor today.
Looks like range of prices are:
$ 2K - you do the work to get the application to comply
$20K - They hand hold you to get the application to comply
Some of the breakdowns are:
$2500 / day for onsite testing - usually 3-5 days
$8000 for code review.
$2000 for subscription to Dynamic Scan of application for one year. Can be run as many times as required and includes 3hrs of support (total)
$7000 for 3hrs per month of support.
Hope this helps others looking.
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Paula Januszkiewicz is very good.
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I leave for a few years and holy crap, the only things I recognize from the site is bob, the color orange, and some of the posters (OriginalGriff, Nish, Joan Murt, Nagy, Marc Clifton, Chris [of course, the hamster whisperer lives here!])..
How is everyone?
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When did you move to Canada?
Good to see you again on the site. Last time you posted, that I remember, you were talking about some cool recipes you were working on. 
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Hahaha, the irony of my life man!
June 15, 2011, I get repatriated... 1/September, 2016, HPE makes me a phenomenal offer to move from Calgary, AB, Canada to Dubai, UAE (that's where I am officially, but I live in Amman, Jordan [again])...
I cry myself silently to sleep these days, but at least the income is good.
Last trip was to Madrid (I actually landed on New Year's day) and brought back 6 RPI 3s... can't source them easily in Amman, Jordan or in Dubai
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The more things change, the more they stay the same. Welcome back! Any wintery regrets?
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haha, I love this!
How is it going Bassam?
No regrets, though I would have loved it even more back in North America..
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All's well. Just read your other post. I was traveling on New Year's Day as well. Save your income and leave when you can afford to again. My family would love for me to work there. Never tried applying. 
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There being where? Dubai?
Too flashy and fake if you ask me for my opinion...
Good money though
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Sunshine is overrated.
You'll note that there still isn't a sarcasm emoji.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Extremely.
Give me my 6 months of twilight thank you very much, a double-double will do in place.
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