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Like little ole me? Of course you do! What's not to like about me? (Don't answer that!)
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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12 minutes earlier I got an email to download it - it is still gets 404 
[UPDATE]
Tried MSDN download - not responding at all...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Also got that one ... thought it was a targeted phishing attack for few moments
modified 19-Nov-18 21:01pm.
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Thanks! I will just have to wait! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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In the meantime, VS 2015 still works. Or 2010 if you're at my office. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Or 6 if you're at mine
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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VB6? Ahh, I miss those days.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Pros:
+ it's lightning fast
+ it's the only one capable of running on our equipment (1 GB of RAM. In 2017)
Cons:
- Terrible space-eating interface, even on a 24" 16:9 screen it's barely enough. I like collapsible panels 
- Almost compliant to C++98. Say hello to all the new features.
- VB6 debugger sucks. If the debugged process crashes, the IDE crashes. And of course it doesn't save breakpoints anywhere so everytime it's a new start.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Does it not occur to the powers that be that an investment in newer machines would probably pay for improved productivity in a month?
Marc
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No, it doesn't. Nor it dawned on them that the resignations of core employees with 10 years of experience harms them. Neither they reach the conclusion that banning Internet access to developers is counterproductive.
Penny-pinching management instead of intelligent one. After all, in the now famous words of our CEO, we are "software labourers", not engineers or programmaers or developers.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Time to dust off your resume?
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Definetely. Add that the pay is extremely poor - exactly the pay of a laborer - and I have reason enough to GTFO. The trouble is that I learnt very little that is valuable out there since we use technology which is 20 years old.
The work itself is good, it's the pay that irks me the most. And I'm lucky, I'm not a technician: those are sent around the world without company issued credit card, without company issued phone and sim card and they have to anticipate the expenses that will be refunded a month later. With expenses that go up to 3000-5000 euros and the same or lower pay than mine it's idiotic.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Neither they reach the conclusion that banning Internet access to developers is counterproductive.
How can you develop code with no internet access? 
Anything more than Hello World & I'm straight onto Google.
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MSDN and then thought, thought, thought. It's mostly custom algorithms and hardware communication so there isn't much help on the internet nonetheless.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Its there now...brace yourselves.
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I haven't used VS much in recent years (I last used the 2010 edition). However, if its is fast and lighter-weight and faster to install then I might give it a try in the near future. Have they finally given proper functionality to the free version? Or do they still skimp on installation projects and the like? I don't want a free version that is little more than a toy (VS Studio lite 2010 is fine for that).
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We introduced the FFDD 
(F***ing Fashion Driven Development)
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: (F***ing Fashion Driven Development Disaster )
Think I got that right...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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All I have to say is: Elephant Elephanting Elephanted Elephanter Elephanting Elephantups Elephant Elephanting Elephanted Elephanting Elephantup Elephanting Elephanter's Elephant
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Ah.
Javascript and VB project then?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Javascript and VB project then?
...and using MS Access as the backend database.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Add a piece in Java and one in C# because it has to be cross-platform.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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Living the dream?[^]
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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lw@zi wrote: Living the dream?[^]
Living the nightmare...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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