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I just read the entire thread and what keeps coming back to me is this one fact that flaws most of the argument that is present here. That is that the basis of measurement used for calculating what may or may not be faster than light is in fact light itself. Anything that is faster than light we don't have a reliable means of measurement of to determine its movement if indeed it were passing through space at a rate greater than the speed greater than the speed of light. Perhaps the speed of dark is many times faster than the speed of light? We would never know because we would never have a way of determining that or if there were such a thing with the current state of our knowledge and technology.
I'm never willing to say what we can't do or technology wise, short of those things that I consider the providence of God Himself. He's crafted us as wonderfully creative beings and their are very few limits to what we are capable of building or discovering.
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Killers of two fools inhabit my hemisphere. (9)
Good hunting!
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Assassins?
2 x ASS + I assume that you're IN the Southern hemisphere ...
Slogans aren't solutions.
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That was quick! Well done, Mr Thursday.
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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...can be found here[^].
What's more, it's written by our very own @DanNeely[^]! 
/ravi
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Pity it describes something other than Diffie-Hellman key exchange. See for example Diffie–Hellman key exchange - Wikipedia[^]
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Well the guy below Dan did it right 
Rules for the FOSW ![ ^]
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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... and Bob was honored to be mentioned in the explanation ...
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From what I read, his analogy was not very accurate, as some of the commenters pointed out. Just saying...
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Actually it's a plain English explanation of securely shipping something in a box.
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It called Three Pass Exchange - and considered to be less secure that DH(M)..
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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ROTFL - Indeed.
If you want a more understandable explanation of this box thing, you can have a look at the Three Pass Exchange[^] 
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Outstanding
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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I've always wondered that, and it's such a PITA trying to actually find a library that works.
Marc
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No built-in SFTP or SCP to my knowledge but you do get FtpWebRequest and FtpWebResponse for FTP. WebClient also supports FTP downloads.
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Snazzy - I'll take a look. Thanks!
Marc
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SFTP is not supported as it is FTP over SSH, a completely different protocol (use SSH.NET for that)
Oops.
Marc
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The most complete library I know of is SSH.NET[^].
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: The most complete library I know of is SSH.NET[^].
Ah, I just came across the resurrected version of it (resurrected from sourceforge, onto CodePlex, and now moved to GitHub  )
Marc
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: The most complete library I know of is SSH.NET[^].
And we have a winner. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
Marc
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What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I don't know. I played around with WinSCP for a couple of days in December because we switched from FTP to FTPS and had to rewrite some legacy code. After reading this forum, I'll take a look at SSH.net next time.
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5 lines of code to do a file upload:
SftpClient sftp = new SftpClient("192.168.0.3", "[username]", "[password]");
sftp.Connect();
var st = new FileStream(@"c:\foo.txt", FileMode.Open);
sftp.UploadFile(st, "/home/debian/foo.txt");
sftp.Disconnect();
The only nuance was that the target (second parameter) must also include the filename. The WinSCP.NET dll implementation doesn't require this. With SSH.NET, finding that was a bit annoying, as the exception message was "Failure!" That was helpful. Had to read through a couple forums with people having the same error to find someone that posted "you need the filename on the destination path." 
Marc
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jgakenhe wrote: switched from FTP to FTPS
Just to make sure everyone reading this thread understands there is a difference between SFTP and FTPS.
WinSCP does not do FTPS as far as I can tell; it does SFTP. SFTP basically wraps copying files with SCP (which in turn uses SSH), and FTPS is FTP over SSL. These follow very different protocols to achieve the same result.
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