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They would - and not too many people have ever won an argument with a chef.
I rather suspect that you have the solution ...
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Ghoulish??
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Nope, not ghoulish. An answer which has giving me a sudden craving for goulash. Can we please stop talking about food?
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Duncan Edwards Jones wrote: Devilish?
(Evil in Dish)
Yay! We have a winner (even that rhymes with dinner - there's just no getting away from food today!)
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Would you develop a website using Microsoft tools, with all the incredible learning curve and expense? Or would you just go the easy - but effective - route and use the WordPress solution your client's hosting provider offers as a development platform?
I've got the Microsoft tools in Visual Studio, and I've got the Adobe tools in the Creative Suite, and I'm not too fond of either. I can use them, but it's a huge effort, usually on my own time, to get up to speed and fairly proficient after a long break. My new employer needs a website that works - it's currently crippled with almost no functionality - and I'm the only one to do it. The current site was done with WordPress, but never completed. And some of their suppliers offer APIs to link with their online ordering systems to make sales on behalf of the affiliate members. Most of those are written using WordPress, so I'm going to have to deal with that sometime...
Given that there's going to be a huge learning curve for me to come up to speed on modern versions of any of these platforms, which would you recommend that I choose for my employer's new website?
Will Rogers never met me.
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If it's already half-done in wordpress, why triple your pain?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Depends on if it's done well or not I'd say.
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Good or bad, it's a start. It's usually quicker to fix an existing attempt than to start from scratch (I'm assuming that the guys had an idea what was needed, and just couldn't implement in time).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Only a little less than half done with Umbraco, and there's no PHP! 
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At this point, it's far less than half done. There's a front page with pictures and that's about it!
Will Rogers never met me.
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I wonder if any Microsoft tools/products were used to make WordPress tools/products?
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QBasic, I think.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Funny you should mention that, because now there is now a new IDE to develop Android apps in pseudo-VB.NET.
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It's been around for a few years at least. And it's pretty amazing. It's not going to be able to write every single type of app out there, but it certainly does exactly what it says it does.
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Write for Android without squirly brackets? Has to be a winner! 
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Now you show some respect for curly braces[1], young man. And mind you place the opening one on a new damned line! 
[1] curly is actually redundant here.
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Maybe I should be ashamed, but I actually like the idea!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I prefer using notepad++ (a simple word processor) instead of some Microsoft tools. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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VS Code is getting very good as well. Very extension based, to adapt to your language and style.
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It all comes down to what you need, as usual.
If it is just to display some marketing content with a few forms to get some customers in contact - wordpress all the way. There's loads of templates out there, and if you can't find one that fits you can find people that produce wordpress templates for you for very small amounts of money. WordPress is all yucky, and you'll need to take a shower afterwards, but you'll be up and going so quickly with a pretty great result. I inherited the management of a WordPress site that made use of the Advanced Custom Fields plugin. You can attach any sort of fields to any post type (blog, page etc). It made getting a UI to edit content so simple, and the backend php was a breeze to copy and paste to get going. Each time I tinker with it I mentally recoil in horror at just how much boilerplate I'd have to write to get the same effect in asp.net MVC.
If you're after something a bit less one-size-fits-all, I'd go for a static site generator. Theres LOADS of them out there. Set up your templates, content markdown, run a command, and out pops regular plain html read to be statically served.
But for a complete web app - I can't go past asp.net. I love the debugging experience. Node in vscode is almost as nice, but I'm just not as familiar with it.
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+5 for the sensible answer.
Jeremy Falcon
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The owner wants a store front, unfortunately, drawing from multiple suppliers' online catalogs. I'm guessing that WordPress isn't going to be up to the challenge, other than to present a home page with general information and links to our Store. The Store itself will have to be hand tailored, probably using ASP.Net, since that's the only tool I am familiar with and have on hand. I've got Dreamweaver, too, but I always feel I need to wash my hands after I open it. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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While I usually have a strong opinion one way or the other, in this case, it depends. If I'm doing a basically static site, WordPress, SquareSpace, etc, are great for putting together something that looks decent. If it's a small site I'm building from scratch that requires a database, business logic, etc., then I use C#/.NET and my own server code (I don't even tie in to IIS.) So that's a partial "Microsoft tools." I haven't needed to use EF, Razor, ASP.NET, because I'm not very fond of them, but since the rest of the Microsoft world goes one of those routes, I end up having to use them occasionally.
Marc
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