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After a long time of 'Umming' and 'Arring' I've finally succumbed to the dark side and embraced the concept of 'Web Components'. They happen to offer the ideal solution (in fact) for a project I'm currently working on.
The concept (in the unlikely event that any of you are even vaguely interested  ) is that they allow me to break a large code and mark up base into reusable blocks (Templates), something 'real' developers have had the ability to do for decades, they allow me to sandbox a node's attribution (Shadow DOM), which is so Firkelling Handy it's a marvel I've got this far without it, and then I can allegedly Import (for import read: #include) all this W3C sanctioned loveliness into my project! I have, to all intents and purposes, objects in a web app!
BUT...
The only browser that supports the #include bit is only available in Narnia, will only run on an Audi, needs to be launched from the command line with several incomprehensible flags, whilst simultaneously holding down four modifier keys, and standing on one leg, facing North North-East, on a specific day in the Wickan Calendar... WHY?
They all support (to some degree) the other 'components', so if they will let me create templates and add them to the Shadow DOM, even create my own tags and use them willy nilly throughout my page, why in the name of all that's holy do I have to put the whole sorry mess in one bloody great big file?
Flumoxed. I am going to walk slowly away from the keyboard now, before I type something I may regret.
Danny
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Correct me if I'm wrong....
WebComponent are awesome, but they work nowhere. Is that it?
Web developmemnt is so great hey!?! 
Let me suggest a working alternative...
Give a go (ha! pun! ) at VueJS[^], be inspired by my collection of VueSamples[^]! 
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There is a polyfill that will allow use in browsers without native support, at least according to: WebComponents.org[^].
I've not tried it, but worth a look.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Cheers Rob,
Yes, there are a couple of libraries out there to patch the 'standard', but the use of templates was to reduce the code base...
There are work-arounds, I currently include js files that render the modules programatically. HTML templates would have reduced the byte count considerably. My issue is that I need the browser to cache my files (it's an app that requires some limited offline capability), so server side options like AJAX and PHP will fail. iframes would work, but there is a large amount of interaction between elements, which is a real ball ache with multiple sub documents. There's also just something inherently wrong with iframes...
My real beef is that, at least according to caniuse.com, Firefox has no intention of supporting 'import', now or in the future. It's available through a switch, but will never make the mainstream engine. The other components are in development or working, just not import.
"Ho hum" though eh?
Danny
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Danny Martin wrote: The only browser that supports the #include bit is only available in Narnia, will only run on an Audi, needs to be launched from the command line with several incomprehensible flags, whilst simultaneously holding down four modifier keys, and standing on one leg, facing North North-East, on a specific day in the Wickan Calendar... WHY?
Because "It works the way want it to!", that's why.
Have you not met many open source devs?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Alas, I have met several. They all lived in Narnia and drove Audis... 
Danny
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I turned off my ad-blocker to choke on this: [^] ?   
An aberration, I assure you, a temporary lapse; I will respond to three heavily down-voted QA questions, I will repeat "always check for null" one-thousand times while standing on one foot, in an attempt to salvage my sanity through penance.
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
modified 5-Apr-16 18:17pm.
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There! There! Just close your eyes and be peaceful for a minute and the uglies will soon pass! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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What's the aiming group of Wired? 
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: What's the aiming group of Wired?
Excess-disposable-income technophiliac lust bunnies for whom shiny metal surfaces illuminated by LEDs are as arousing as fantasizing about weapons of mass destruction is to jihadists.
cheers, Bill
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Those site are getting more and more crap = less views = more ads. until now the site is bad as WinAntiVirus 2008 
If it was TV 30 minutes show, it would be 25 minutes of commercial and 5 minutes of TV
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BillWoodruff wrote: I turned off my ad-blocker
Why? Just disable script, and their "ad-block-blocker" won't work.
Sure, you'll have to play with the browser's dev tools if you want to see the image gallery; but at least you won't get bombarded with ads. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Hi All,
On the hunt for a job going through the emails I see a role that could be for me on Glass Door click on the link it takes me to Farce Book, Face Book, sorry. But I am a little lost as how to apply. If you want to recruit some one put the ad on a proper site...
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Now I am seeing Facebook craps on LinkedIn also, so it goes both
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glennPattonNotInThePUB wrote: On the hunt for a job
Sorry to hear that, I thought you were at a new place.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Started a contract for a firm, got so far asked for £X, big disagreement 'you said £Y', I didn't but that's for another day, so still waiting for for there input, just walked away...
Ooh yeah will change status back...
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Bummer, hope you find something soon!
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Cheers dude! ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
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Stay away from Glassdoor. When I put my resume there, I immediately get spammed with junk job offer scams. It's not worth it.
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Ah Ha! that explains some of ahem 'rubbish' I have been getting.
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And that me off down an IMDB hole, I am going to get something to eat...
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