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It's the attitude people have about browsers that I don't like, and it's been going on for almost as long as browsers have existed.
However, the old song:
-- This site works best in Netscape!
-- This site works best in IE!
And later:
-- This site works best in Firefox!
-- This site works best in Chrome!
Have lately become:
-- We won't let you use this site unless you install Firefox!
-- We won't let you use this site unless you install Chrome!
And, indeed, in the case of bittorrentsync: "You can't use this program unless you install either Firefox or Chrome!"
I've got just about every browser under the Sun installed on at least one machine, and it is extremely clear that the best performers are Opera and Maxthon (that's in reverse order). The only pages that don't open in those browsers are those where the owner of the page is childishly trying to push his preferred browser, and has blocked it from opening in others.
I'd had enough of that pathetic behaviour when it was just Netscape idolaters versus IE evangelists.
But now the Netscape idolaters are firefox idolaters, who "scraped the 'scape" (all the way to the bottom of the barrel), and still childishly believe that their behaviour will make friends and allies for them.
Your argument is the wrong way around. I don't insist that pages be made that work only in Maxthon or Opera (the two most HTML5-compliant browsers). I am complaining about people who insist that only their preferred browser be used, which is the exact opposite of what you claim that I am doing.
If you make a page that requires HTML5, it will work better in Opera and Maxthon than it will in whichever (of the 35,000) firefox or chrome version you have installed, so you don't block users of the better browsers from viewing it, and idiotically claim that your preferred browser has to be used.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: the owner of the page is childishly trying to push his preferred browser, and has blocked it from opening in others.
Not to defend idiots, but are they actively blocking or just throwing up their hands and saying "for the 1% who use Opera it's just not worth our time to work around their foibles"?
Mark_Wallace wrote: Your argument is the wrong way around. I don't insist that pages be made that work only in Maxthon or Opera (the two most HTML5-compliant browsers). I am complaining about people who insist that only their preferred browser be used, which is the exact opposite of what you claim that I am doing.
Steady on: I merely asked "If you were developing a site that used HTML5 and that worked fine on Maxthon, would it be fair oif a user stuck with IE7 due to corporate, hardware (or mere preference) to you feel you felt you were a stupid elite idiot?
(Give or take a total mangling of my original post).
By this I mean: If you're insisting on a certain functional level of browser, does that make it elitist? And to be clear I was being tongue in cheek. I insist on a certain level of functionality in browsers - it's the only way to stay sane.
Or (and this is where I need clarification) is it more that you're seeing web developers insisting on a certain browser merely for the sake of a certain browser, even though plenty of other browsers (eg Opera and Maxthon) are perfectly capable of rendering the site's content?
(If this is the case then yeah: they deserve a slapping)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Or (and this is where I need clarification) is it more that you're seeing web developers insisting on a certain browser merely for the sake of a certain browser, even though plenty of other browsers (eg Opera and Maxthon) are perfectly capable of rendering the site's content?
Precisely that.
Chris Maunder wrote: (If this is the case then yeah: they deserve a slapping)
Well, I settled for bitching about it, because they're not within reach of a slap.
The bittorrentsync this morning is what set me off.
It's a program that literally refused to allow me to use it (after I had installed it) unless either firefox or chrome were installed as my primary browser.
Bluddy open-source evangelists. Bring back the shareware days.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Oh, and I assume you don't also mean you've just grabbed yourself a Venge[^]. If you did then let me know how it is. I've been eyeing one for a while now.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Damn. Had bikes like that been available 20 years ago...
These days, I rarely get above 30km/h (partly because the bike I use most, lately, isn't built for high speed)(but that never stopped me before), and I've even had to fit a rear-view mirror because it's a struggle to twist to look behind.
I could probably improve on that if I could find a decent hill in this God-forsaken underworld.
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It's all about the bike... 
cheers
Chris Maunder
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What a dive... superb... !!!!
Microsoft HoloLens goes beyond augmented reality and virtual reality by enabling you to interact with three-dimensional holograms blended with your real world. Microsoft HoloLens is more than a simple heads-up display, and its transparency means you never lose sight of the world around you. High-definition holograms integrated with your real world will unlock all-new ways to create, communicate, work, and play.
Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
Save Paper >> Save Tree >> Save Huminity
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That doesn't half read like spam... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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At least it's 50/50 or more like 90/10? 
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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@OriginalGrifff hehehe yes i copied it from somewhere becouse i am impressed by this very feature.
Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
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If you do it again, it's a good idea to put it in quote marks to indicate it is a quote - or you could be considered as spamming the site, and that would lose you your account...
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Especially the bit about "saving huminity", I'm assuming that's something proprietary?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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I think he meant to say "Saving Humidity" and got the wrong key? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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So an ad for humidifiers?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Well, I suppose you could use it to make things look longer, maybe by about three inches.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hologram: a three-dimensional image formed by the interference of light beams from a laser or other coherent light source.
This isn't a hologram. And honestly, it's going to be rubbish! Far less efficient than doing the same thing with a mouse or stylus in 2d!
Sure, it's nice to look at a real image in 3d using 3d glasses - but trying to model like that, waving your hands around in the air, sorry, just rubbish and nothing really new.
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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_Maxxx_ wrote: And honestly, it's going to be rubbish!
Every corporate marketing department is going to love it, unfortunately - at least for a few months anyway 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: Every corporate marketing department is going to love it, unfortunately
You're probably right--it'll appeal to those who make a living with PowerPoint </shudder>
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Yup. It looks cooler than the Fox's bear in Iron Man movies, but it would be a right royal pain in the @rse.
The keyboard, the mouse, the toolbar, and the menu. Those four things have proven time and time again that they are the best tools for working with computer applications.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm not averse to new interface methods - and the ability to move objects in a virtual 3d world will have its uses, I'm sure - but it's not really anything new (although building this into W10, if that's what they are doing, is an interesting move)
But unless you are using it for everything, sitting with goggles on is going to be a real pain in the butt, isn't it?!
especially as, with the addition of a small device, you can do the same sort of thing with a 2d screen and a 3d object (i.e. manipulate it with your fingers.
What does appeal is the ability to track what you are looking at - but not having to wear goggles
And talking to the thing, waggling your finger to click - it's flashy impractical bollocks!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Yay - at last Douglas Adams' anti-peril glasses are a (virtual) reality.
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Saw this video this morning, Ken Sharkey shared a link to it at Insider News. This stuff goes waaaay beyond cool
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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I don´t believe it to be soon 
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Elementary! 57 56,27,7 for the perfect pig? (5)
Good luck chaps, chapesses, and hamsters!
[edit]Off by one error - damnit!  [/edit]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
modified 22-Jan-15 4:15am.
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Do you actually mean 56,27,7?
One day I aspire to having a signature.
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