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Marc Clifton wrote: pinching a loaf
At first I thought what an odd way to get pleasure, squeezing a loaf of bread and what on earth do rude noises have to do with testing a loaf of bread's freshness.
Then I googled it... and read the urban dictionary definition...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: and read the urban dictionary definition...
 I first encountered that expression in the Shawshank Redemption[^]. An excellent movie, never did read the novella.
Marc
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The Shawshank Redemption is on ITV2 in seven minutes.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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As an analogy I would rather read something by Kazuo Ishiguro than Dan Brown, or slowly savour Glenmorangie over having to throw back Jack Daniels as fast as possible due to its taste.
Just because something appeals to the masses does not make it of value.
Moreover value is a very individual quality and I don't happen to place very much value on Facebook.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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You realize of course that "like" and "dislike" are subjective and it appears that the points you are making are specifically subjective. So they don't like it because they don't like it. Arguing against that doesn't change that.
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We could turn the question back to you. Why do you like FB?
You could explain in a few posts what you do with it, and there will always be someone to tell that there are others ways to achieve the same.
The fact is, that's pointless. Reading all these arguments makes me feel like a FB's representative is sitting in front of me, trying to convince me that I'm wrong to refuse to adhere.
A talk about privacy in general, and on social networks specifically, would have been of more interest.
[Flags]
public enum Bool {
True, False, ForSure, Maybe, ProbablyNot, Depends, NotDecidedYet, Undefined
}
private interface IStealth { }
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Because the user is the product.
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I dislike Facebook for the same reason I dislike many of these free services. That is, if you don't pay for it you're the product.
I would avoid Facebook completely if I had an option. I avoid Google for many of the same reasons. There are friends and family that it facilitates communication with though. I would rather pay for a service to do this, but many people that I want and need to keep in contact with wouldn't. I'm not naïve enough to think I can avoid these services completely. Instead I try to trust wisely, and I limit my exposure in other cases.
I also dislike Facebook, because of things like their game requests which are often sent on the person's behalf (not directly). It's not clear to users what apps like games can do. Granted the people should be more aware, but most people don't care about that stuff. No game or app should be able to access my contacts or perform any action automatically on my profile unless the app specifically has to do with it. (I don't use apps on Facebook.)
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A dysfunctional little git who can't get girls creates an app that's not entirely his own idea to get even and everyone says - "That's great, I'm in?". Not me.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I am on facebook, but unlike the most people I don't mainly use it to connect with people from my own country (a lot of close friends of mine don't even have facebook), but to keep the contact with people from all around the world (several CPians, plus some additional 'merkins I happen to know).
FaceBook can be used for a variant of purposes, and in the end it is what you make out of it.
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
The console is a black place [taken from Q&A]
How to ask a question
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I do not like the UI and the features. I have always been saying that "Facebook is a bad application" and meant every word. Facebook is an application, not just a site. So far, so good. Facebook's UI is bad, prohibiting, and unintuitive. But I also dislike the way it lets people approach and relate to other people.
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I like it
Makes it easier to keep in touch with friends that no longer live nearby, plus it helps "remembering" everyone's birthday 
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
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Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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So it trivialises relationships of all kinds and dehumanises the little that's left. And that's a good thing? The easier it becomes the less point there is to having it in the first place. If it does not involve a little sacrifice and a lot of commitment, what's it worth? Very little, as with everything else in this throwaway, fad driven society that Facebook has done so much to encourage. If the Devil exists, then you can be sure that he is still rubbing his hands in glee at Facebook's creation. It mirrors exactly the insidious, insinuating nature of his best and most successful temptations!
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It's not Facebook's fault if in your culture people have been pushing eachother apart and isolating themselves in favor of social networks.
Fortunatelly for me, in Brazil relationships are still face to face bases. We are a warm population. Facebook is only an add-on. It helps sharing our moments and connecting with those that are far away.
Facebook only gets in the way thwle ammount you allow it. Facebook is only evil if you let it steer your life. Which is not the case of most Brazilians I know.
It's all about the culture, not facebook.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
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Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Ok, I mentioned this a reply to someone else but I think this needs to go as a reply to the main thread.
Anyhoo, I think we are all missing the point here.
- It is software you don't pay for.
- This software you use to keep in touch with that old flame from High School and Aunt Betsy from Maine It isn't yours!
- FB knows exactly who the Users are and EXACTLY who the Customer is. They are not the same person at all.
- FB Customer base are those companies that are paying to put advertising on its site. Guess what people. The rest of us(users) do not get to vote.
Do I like FB. Not so much. The Privacy variability, the TOS that say they own my pictures? The analysis they perform on my relationships with my friends, wife, children. That all scares me. Mainly because they sell this information to other organizations.
Am I on FB. Yes. Nearly 1000 "friends" I actually do know personally 90% of them.
FB is not for us. FB is for the marketing people of the world. Just know this going in.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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Try to unsubscribe from Facebook. At one point it was impossible.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Not sure I can be trusted to say.
I have never had a FB account.
I hope to never have a FB account.
Because of this, I don't even know what it offers, other than a WhiteBoard for me to indicate some status and crap for others to look at...(I don't take many pictures, and I certainly do not want to share them anonymously)...
And don't get me started on SCHOOLS making ASSIGNMENTS for the kids that have to create Twitter/Tumblr accounts.
Really? Failing so bad at teaching the MATH, that you can CLAIM you taught them to be social? (Something I do
believe they figure out on their own).
I guess I do not understand how it would save me time/energy, so I don't use it.
What I don't like about it, is that everyone seems to think you should be there, and if you are not, it is because you don't know about computers. ROTFLMAO: I am not there because I spend TOO MUCH TIME on computers...
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Nothing against facebook or twitter or linkedin any other social networking website. It is just not the way I communicate. I'll visit, write a letter (do people still do such things?), phone or send an email. That way, there is more to talk about. If your whole life has been published and everyone already knows everything and has seen all the pictures, what do you talk about when you meet up with friends?
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"1. You cannot call it bad just because of content."
You don't get to dictate my reasons for liking or not liking a thing. If I want to dislike it because of content, that's my privilege. Maybe I think FB's bad content is more annoying than CP's bad content. Maybe I'm tired of clueless political rants interspersed with photos of someone's dinner. Maybe I just like my privacy. Either way, that's my decision.
Why are you so eager to de-legitimize and downplay other people's reasons for disliking Facebook? It sounds like you asked this question to start an argument, not because you actually wanted to learn something.
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I hate the way the feed is managed, especially in their mobile app. I see something funny, walk across the room to show it to my daughter, and suddenly it's jumped position and when I scroll down to where the thing was that I wanted to show her it's no longer there, and even if I got to the wall of the person who posted it it's pretty much a coin flip whether I can find it there.
In fact, just the other day I was looking for something I'd posted myself a few months ago. Turns out the two weeks around the date I posted it are just gone, but I spent quite a few minutes scrolling through everything I'd ever clicked "like" on to figure that out. It's like they created an algorithm specifically to preserve the history I care least about.
And then there's the "10+ New Stories" thing, which aren't actually new stories, but rather there's maybe one new story and the rest are things that I've already seen and didn't like, but someone I know liked it so obviously I need to see it again so I can have another chance to like it.
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I don't dislike it, I just find it pointless for anything that is not cheap gossip or sell you something.
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I hate it because:
1. I didn't invent it
2. My parents keep reminding me that I didn't invent it
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Two weeks touring the whisky distilleries on Isla and Jura, and now my liver needs a rest. 
Did I miss anything? Has OG reached 2 million yet? Has everyone found love using a box of chocolates made by Rowntree Mackintosh[^], or have the spammers found a new topic? Have we all finally agreed that VB6 is the best language ever invented?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: Have we all finally agreed that VB6 is the best language ever invented?
Are you sure you've come back from that tour?
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With the amount of email I've had to wade through today, I'm not sure I ever went! The Paps[^] seem like a dim and distant memory. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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