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Thank you, thank you. I'm glad to be back.
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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Welcome back and congrats! It's your turn to feed the hamsters. 
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Yay, I missed that. 
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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Be careful of the syntax there. He may try to feed you to the hamsters.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Welcome back! And thanks for spelling resumé correctly. 
/ravi
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Haha. I take it that doesn't happen too often?
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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Nashville, is nice, I hope you are getting well compensated. Every time I have tried to get a contract their all of the companies have been notoriously tight.
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Well, given that I have no formal education in the field (no degree, no certification), and not even a high school diploma -- I'd say $40K isn't bad to start out. However, I live in a small town about 45 miles from downtown, and this town is cheap as can be. Taxes are lower, housing is significantly lower. So I can make a good living here just off of my starting pay. 
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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Good luck , you deserve it.
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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I appreciate it, pkfox. I've worked my butt off for the past 16 years, since I was 10, to get into this field. And it's finally paying off. 
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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Hi Matt, I retrained when I was 36 , going from being an engineer to a software engineer, three plus years of studying with very little money and being with people half my age who were only doing it as a way of avoiding the real world, I still study like crazy despite having been in the game 20 + years now, still love what I do, go for it mate and best of luck.
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Oh, I study every day. I'm always looking to expand my horizons. Plus, my employer covers 100% of the cost for certifications, including .NET Framework. I plan to work toward a few certifications in the relatively near future. They also cover education costs, so I may look into obtaining my degree in the next few years as well.
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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I'm wondering, yet again, if there's a good visualization package out there for associating "things". For my particular project (not homework [obviously!] and not even being paid for this) what I want to visualize concretely are things associated with communities: people, skills, where they live, where they work, the flow of money through the community, etc.
What I really have liked are those dynamic visualizers (a lot of them are web-based) where the circles move around in a nice animated way based on where you zoom in, what content you add, and so forth.
Are there any commercial (or free) products out there, either web-based or desktop-based?
[edit]Wow, check this out.[^] Example video here[^]
I think this is just what the doctor ordered!
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Marc
modified 19-Nov-13 13:49pm.
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I'd look at GraphViz[^] for drawing that type of display.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I'd look at GraphViz[^] for drawing that type of display.
Indeed. However this[^] I think is exactly what I'm looking for. Check out the video. Very slick stuff.
And it's free![^]
Marc
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Nailing down the underlying data for that, and any visualisation/BI tool, is going to be a bitch. I'd take a very close look at the data source and requirements to achieve that level of sophistication I've seen some awfully slick demos but when you try and apply it to real data they don't have the flex.
I'll be very interested in your results as usual.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I'll be very interested in your results as usual.
Here's an example using real data - it took about 30 minutes of learning the JSON format, replacing the demo data, and fussing with the CSS:
www.marcclifton.com/Jit/Examples/RGraph/example1.html[^]
The mouse wheel zooms in and out
Click on a label to center it
Drag the entire surface with click and drag
This could so easily be data-driven instead of the hardcoded JSON that I'm using right now for demo purposes.
Marc
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Impressive stuff, once the data requirements are understood it is just work toy massage your source info into shape. I found a lot of this stuff seems to run on KPIs and they were the most difficult thing to define.
I did a lot of poc work on one of these tools about 7 years ago, was fantastic if you could get the bank to maintain 1200 KPIs  .
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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XMind[^] has a free version also that's not to bad!
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InfoVis is very cool, and the price is right, thanks, Marc !
In 1997 I discovered, with delight, Plumb Design's (now ThinkMap) Visual Thesaurus: [^].
I visit the ThinkMap site often because of the literary, and etymological, content of the site, not to mention the crossword puzzles.
Equally fascinating to me are Edward Tufte's wonderful books on the history of information design, and the visual representation of quantitative data: [^]. On Amazon: [^].
yrs, Bill
"What Turing gave us for the first time (and without Turing you just couldn't do any of this) is he gave us a way of thinking about and taking seriously and thinking in a disciplined way about phenomena that have, as I like to say, trillions of moving parts.
Until the late 20th century, nobody knew how to take seriously a machine with a trillion moving parts. It's just mind-boggling." Daniel C. Dennett
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Tufte rocks hugely.
/ravi
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