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She was fully kitted out, most of which should last two or three years, for the princessly sum of £413. Feck.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
"Nagy, you have won the internets." - Keith Barrow
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Are fava beans included in the package?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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Are you offering a pig liver ? :wondering: I am sure you wont give up yours for some lousy school stuff like uniform.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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He's long term unemployed.
So the new government policy is he becomes an organ donor...
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Is the link you pasted above the collection of the organ(s) by the government ?
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No, they don't ask that nicely...
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Is it just me or does anyone else feel that the word 'app' implies software that is inferior to a program? Can fully spec'd programs be described as apps?
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Herbie Mountjoy wrote: Is it just me or does anyone else feel
Try to more thinking
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Nice handle BTW.
But too long.
You need a nickname.
Skhat will work, I think.
What, me worry?
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I usually prefix the word "app" with a "cr".
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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cr\sl\tr\mish\n\...
Omnipotent suffix!
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If money is your hope for independence, you cannot reach it.
Being loved gives you strength,
while loving gives you courage.
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I call "apps" programs as often as I can, because that's what they are. Thanks to Jobs, if you say program when referring to an "app" to a typical none technical user they look at you like your stupid.
On a slightly unrelated note, I've pretty much had enough of Android, many of the "apps" are of an absolutely shocking mess. Terrible UI layout, dreadful font choices, constantly crashing for no given reason.
Oh and don't even get me started on the advertising that is placed inside the "apps". Like here for example: http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/12/03/android-ads-battery/gsmarena_001.jpg[^]
Looking forward to getting an iPhone at some point.
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Lloyd Atkinson wrote: many of the "apps" are of an absolutely shocking mess. Terrible UI layout, dreadful font choices, constantly crashing for no given reason. I haven't encountered anything like that myself -- and there's no point telling us; tell the developers, so they can fix 'em.
Lloyd Atkinson wrote: Looking forward to getting an iPhone at some point. After using android? It'll drive you crazy. Go with a Windows phone, for the sake of your sanity.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: After using android? It'll drive you crazy. Go with a Windows phone, for the sake of your sanity.
I've used an iPhone a few times over the past few months and I have to say, it's an enjoyable experience. By that I mean, it's the opposite of my current Android phone, which is stressful and difficult to use. Perhaps because it's Android 2.3.
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Say that again after your schedule has become governed by how long it takes itunes to start up when you connect the phone to your computer (which you have to do for just about everything).
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Psst. You can turn that off, you know.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Yup, but you can't do hardly anything without itunes.
Want to have access to a bunch of PDF textbooks?
Upload them to the phone with itunes.
Want to open them with a different PDF reader?
Upload another copy of each to the phone with itunes.
Want to wi-fi browse through the files on your computer and open them on the phone?
You can't, unless the app you browse with has a built-in decoder for the types of files (so you have to plug in and use itunes to upload them to the phone).
The only way around itunes is by storing everything on the cloud, and even that's only a partial workaround.
Oh, and the phone won't tell you where it's storing the files, either, so you can't move/delete/access them without... well, take a guess.
Compare that to android, which has default programs for file types (and if there's not a default, it asks you which app you want to open them in), a perfectly accessible file system (but who wants to use Total Commander to transfer files over wi-fi, when you can plug in and use itunes, eh?), etc.
As a techie, you'll soon find lots of things to hate about the iphone.
Why don't you just get a shell for android (they call them "launchers"), if you're not happy with how it looks/works -- if it's apps you're not happy with, most of them are also available in the istore, so they're not really relevant (just install different/better apps).
heh. There's an iphone shell[^].
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Mark_Wallace wrote: you can't do hardly anything without itunes Ah. I'd be inclined to apply the same logic I do to Lotus Notes here at work. Bloatus Goatse takes anywhere from 45 seconds to over a minute to start up, so I have it in the Startup folder. I just leave it running all the time, rather than wait for the stupid pig to wake up.
I'll admit, dealing with the stench of jasmine tea and fluffy bunnies from having iTunes™ running constantly might be annoying, but it's better than the interminable startup delay.
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Lloyd Atkinson wrote: I've pretty much had enough of Android, many of the "apps" are of an absolutely shocking mess. Terrible UI layout, dreadful font choices, constantly crashing for no given reason.
What devices have you been running Android on?
I have had a Galaxy S2 and now use a Galaxy S4 and have had very few problems with apps crashing.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
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I've been calling programs apps for as long as I can remember, and the term "application program" is not unheard of in documentation, where one or other of the words could be read as meaning something else.
I don't see a distinction between programs that run on pocket computers (i.e. phones), tablets, laptops, desktops, or any other kind of computing device. "App" and "program" are completely synonymous, in the context.
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The answer is in the question!
There is no technical difference it's just a fuzzy touchy feely marketing difference
It used to be that app is abbreviation for application which was any user program, preferrably (but not limited to) with a UI or set of such program.
Now it's more or less a term for a single executable fullscreen UI program. Whether it is inferior or not.. it depends, I guess if it's finger driven on a small screen with little CPU power it is obviously going to have less feature that a hungry desktop app (such as 3DS Max! Blender! Corel Draw!) or be unusable...
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Hmm.
Pedantic mode ON , click.
To my mind, an 'app' can consist of one or more programs, along with ancillary data sources, network connections, devices, and so on. The app is the whole that lets the user accomplish some objective. A program may be a component part, either the UI the user deals with, an underlying service, or some other unit of executing code.
Pedantic mode OFF , click.
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Hi Herbie,
Once-upon-a-time, before the Age of Silicon Ubiquity (our present era), "apps" were lowly slaves; they had no personal names; and, it was illegal for them to ever refer to themselves, in writing, using upper-case. If an "app" ever used the word "application:" that was anathema, and carried an automatic death sentence.
Programs ruled the world: Programs had Agendas; Programs had Specifications; Programs were ministered to by a special Priesthood in the holy-name of the Creator of the Universe, "MainFrame," who fed them sacramental punched-cards, and, later, sacred tape-reels.
Programs constantly humiliated and abused "apps:" often forcing them to perform bizarre dances, like the Hully-Gully, and the Twist, while they sneered, and jeered.
And, everything, then, depended on Programs.
But, as you know, the Revolution ... happened. Boys in Garages who played games with Cracker-Box whistles that let them call themselves on telephones around-the-world, took advantage of a new mutant breed of computer devices that were incarnated as "Chips Off the Old Wafer."
And, one thing, as always, led to another, and "apps" were, at last, emancipated, freed, while the old Hierophants of Programs, and their temples of MainFrame, were relegated to the cultural back-waters, and their former Priesthood de-mystified, de-throned.
Today, "Applications" can "stand tall," and can claim to be "Programs" without shame, or reprisal; they can have algorithms, and specifications, and they are free to do break-dancing, twerking, and Gangnam, to attentive, and appreciative, audiences.
It is a much better world, now: in fact, it may be, as Dr. Pangloss taught, "the best of all possible worlds." Depending on who you listen to, perhaps a third, or more, of the world's population may have some access to the Internet.
Many of the poorest people on the Earth can now see all the good things that the well-to-do of the Earth have and enjoy, which must be very up-lifting for them indeed, and help them forget small details, like the fact their drinking water is full of toxic chemicals, the air they breathe full of toxic particles, and the habitat they, and their ancestors, lived in, lived-off of, is more, and more degraded.
We have FaceBook, Second Life, Doom, and Twitter, and Linked-In, now, where millions can immerse themselves in "virtual worlds," which is a very soothing way to forget about disturbing things, like one-million Syrian refugee children.
A country, like the USA, can be proud of the fact that seventy-percent, or more, of its homes have internet connections, and that they host sixty-percent of the world's porn web-sites.
But, is there a "Catch-22" ?
At the same time we have all this: has the infrastruture become as "concentrated" as it once was in the days of MainFrame, and Programs, uber alles ?
A little outage of Google can disrupt 40% of internet traffic. A solar flare could wind-the-clock-back to the beginnings of the industrial revolution.
Well, let us not dwell on unpleasantness, at a time like this, while we are at the great feast of surplus reality, and an endless smorgasboord of technical wonders are on offer, for the enchantment ... of some of us.
yours, Bill
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“This isn't right; this isn't even wrong." Wolfgang Pauli, commenting on a physics paper submitted for a journal
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I remember the good old days when life was simple and every bit of software was a program. I guess MS started using the term 'application' to distinguish user programs from the BIOS and OS programs. Now we have the contraction 'app' which distinguishes applications from apps. Hmm... I'm confused......
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App is a short form for Apple Program.
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