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Caveat Functionality!
Do you use a password manager?
Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in?
If so, you don't want to turn this on.
I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them?
If you share this across devices, it seems like it would not be great.
I'm glad they don't turn this on by default.
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That's a good point. Not only will it exist - in clear - in the clipboard history until it's specifically deleted, but it'll be synced via Seattle which decreases security.
Hmmm. Gonna have to think about that ... and maybe automate disabling it and reenabling it so it doesn't get to either. Have to think about that one.
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OriginalGriff wrote: and maybe automate disabling it and reenabling it so it doesn't get to either.
When I read the note about this functionality I was a bit horrified so I jumped over to my Win10 machine and tested a couple of things.
1) it is not turned on by default (at this time -- hopefully not in future either).
2) When you turn it off, it does seem to clear all of the history -- so that means that simply turning it off will take care of deleting any items you don't want others to see.
2a) However, if it really does "save it in the cloud" I don't know when or if it is really totally deleted.
Good luck to all of us.
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raddevus wrote: 1) it is not turned on by default (at this time -- hopefully not in future either). I would add a note to whereever you see it daily to check up after the next update... by the way... 20h1 21H1 is about to start
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I'm already running 21H1 on the desktop - it's still disabled by default there.
(That was an upgrade from 20H2 which is still running on the Surface.)
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raddevus wrote: I know that many people will chime in and tell me it is so wrong to copy a password into the clipboard and paste it into password field, but alas how would you do strong passwords? Type them?
Especially if you have to use something like Thycotic and the Thycotic Session Manager(TSM). Your password gets generated every 16 hours or so.
TSM on a Mac is especially horrid. When you start a session you can paste the password from a second mouse button click but not from CommandKey+C keystroke. If your session goes to sleep, you can't even do that and MUST type the thing. Another fun "feature" of TSM is that if you Ctrl+arrow to another screen or CommandKey+Tab to another application and then go back to TSM it will at random hold on to the key press of the Ctrl or CommandKey. This means that inside the Windows Server session anything you type has the Ctrl or CommandKey pressed for you which has lovely side effects. I have to have the on screen keyboard active all the time to see if the keys are being held. Having the on screen keyboard on gets me calls from the security group asking if I was using it. Then I get to explain it all again to them.
Sorry for the rant.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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raddevus wrote: Do you use a password manager?
Does it copy your password to the clipboard so it can be pasted in?
If so, you don't want to turn this on.
Or get a better password manager, which avoids adding the copied data to the clipboard history.
The WinRT clipboard class[^] lets you specify whether the copied contents can be stored in the history and whether they can be "roamed" across devices. The only complicated part is calling that without restricting your application to only run on Windows 10.
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I'm not sure that's really the danger you think it is...
I've been using a open-source password manager, Keypass, and the clipboard extension, Ditto, for quite awhile now, without running into this issue.
The behavior I experience is that after copying the password from within Keypass, and pasting it somewhere else, when I check Ditto to try pasting it again, there is no record of the password in its database. I believe it behaves this way because Keypass, and probably other password managers, set the clipboard datatype of the password to a type that causes it to expire after a short time (or perhaps after a single paste). This requires the clipboard manager to honor it of course, and there could be ways around this "protection".
I haven't cared enough about this security feature to track down the hows & whys of its operation... especially, since I only became aware of it when I specifically wanted a password to remain in the Ditto database and discovered that it didn't (by the way, the work around is to paste the password into a plain-text editor and re-copy it).
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It sounds nice, and indeed I have used a program in the distant past that did this, but I'm sure there is a legitimate reason why I don't miss it. Notepad(s) work for me and additionally strip formatting. I won't be turning that feature on.
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You could already do that using a RDP to a windows server...
It is really [irony] funny [/irony] to paste the things that another person has copied.
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Great find...I didn't know this existed either!
For now, I use Ditto[^]...You can control it entirely from the keyboard and sync with other devices using IP/Hostname and a password (i.e. no Seattle man in the middle), which is great when you have multiple Windows devices running as different user accounts (e.g. Home, Work, Admin).
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... Herself has just turned her side of the living room upside down looking for her glasses.
Not her reading glasses - she found them.
Her "walking around" glasses ... the ones she was wearing ...
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Part of the reason why I wear varifocals now.
The other being I can see the instruments in the car and the road ahead instead of one or the other ...
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Tried a couple of pairs of bi-focals and couldn't get used to them, about feel a few times so gave them up. Just reading glasses now, but I'll have them on top oif my head and look all around then....duh!
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Had similar experiences with progressive lenses, they made driving an 'experience'. So now I too have reading glasses with me at almost all times.
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On top of my head is also where my lost glasses are usually to be found!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I had three pairs - "walking around", "reading", and "computer" with different distances and I forever had the wrong ones on ...
Varifocals took a while to get used to, but once you are they are "fire and forget" glasses - you can read, compute, and drive in the same glasses and everything is "in focus" because it becomes a habit to move your head so the "sweet spot" is in the right place. Just don't get small glasses - the sweet spot becomes tiny and it's a PITA to get used to it.
Took me about three weeks.
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Reminds me of the Professor Branestawm books I read as a child. I think he had five pairs - one for reading, one for writing, one for out of doors, one for looking at you over the top of and a fifth pair for looking for the others when they get lost.
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Anyone got any advice on this as I know nothing about glasses/contact lenses.
My close up vision is getting worse and can't read a thing without specs. However my distance vision is good and every eye test they tell me I don't need specs to drive. In fact, if I tried to wear them, the results would not be good as I'd be able to focus well on a fly on the dashboard but maybe not on the oncoming truck.
My problem was, when driving, trying to see the instruments! Luckily this has improved with a car change and I can now choose the speed as the parameter displayed in large digits on the driver's display. Presents problems with the Satnav display though ...
Would bi-focal/varifocals be an option given there'd be quite a difference needed from quite strong to nothing?
Also, how do you find out what lenses are actually in your specs? At my last test, the prescription didn't change so, using it, I got a cheap spare pair online. But I'd forgotten they tweaked my current (perfect) specs after I received them so I guess the lenses don't exactly correspond to the prescription. So the spare's are useable, but not great and certainly couldn't wear them for hours at a time. My alternative would be to make a frame to hold them about three inches in front of my nose, at which point they are great!
Thanks for any advice,
Rich
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1. Any optician should be able to tell the prescription of your lenses and compare them.
2. There is no reason the upper prescription of bifocals can't be clear.
When they removed my cataracts, the lenses they inserted made my left eye "close" and my right eye "far". They can do the same with contacts. BUT, to be safe, I do have driving glasses that correct my left eye for "normal". I can easily read the instruments with them. Tell your eyeball doctor what you need.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I once spent 10 minutes totally fazed by how I managed to unlock the car without the keys. I suddenly realised I was gripping them between my teeth.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Her "walking around" glasses ... the ones she was wearing ...
I wear my readers on my shirt so they are always available.
The other day I sat down at my desk and instinctively grabbed at my shirt and my readers weren't there. Hmmm?? I started looking around my desk. Then, it hit me. They are on my face!
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This is a common occurrence in my house. Both herself and me end up in this and laugh at each other and then the Amazon thing laughs.
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