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Yeah, supposedly a snail told that joke on a guy's doorstep. The guy threw him a good 100 feet away.
5 years later there is a knock on the door. He looks down and see's the snail who says:
"Hey! What the hell was that about?!"
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I'm hoping someone here has experience with firmware that controls microwave ovens. The ironically named Frigidaire Gallery, if I want to be fussy.
Every so often the countdown goes 3...2...1...7...6...5...4...3...2...1
I'm trying to think how on earth
a) this can happen (and happen randomly), and
b) why 7.
I did try (as I always do) to open the door at exactly 0. Because deep down I'm still 5 years old. Maybe that's triggering some odd logic? A capacitor not fully discharged? A power spike? A hidden Easter Egg?
Anyone?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Maybe it was written by the same developer that does the time estimates for Windows Update? (or worse - Apple patches)
TTFN - Kent
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While the estimates can be way of, I have defended the way it worked. I prefer it over the W10 version where they iterate over all files first for their sizes to give a "better" estimate.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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obligatory xkcd: Estimation[^]
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Except there it's in reverse:
100% complete...
(5 minutes later)
11% complete...
The microwave sounds more like the file copy dialog[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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No I think it is the guy that writes the downloading time code...
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3..2..1..7 no 0? or 8? does it start from 3 is it a LCD or LED display as my first thought was LED the two out bars (a,b in seven segment parlance) had died but they appear to be used in 2 & 5, when it does this is 0 displayed as 1 appear to go to 7? I have seen something like this with a Automated Meter Reading unit. That was down to an Atmel getting upset by an ignition coil near by (an issue if it's supposed to be mounted in a truck to collect meter readings...
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It's not a display issue.
It's just...odd.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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An intermittent voltage surge to the 3rd bit of the countdown timer circuit that somehow triggers the first bit to remain at '1' when it goes to trigger the all-zero state, and the third bit to flip to '1'? If so, that is either really crummy design, or someone has a weird short condition in their soldering. Or you have not yet sacrificed to the proper gods.
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Actually that's interesting. 7 would be the third bit.
This actually seems to be the most likely. Dry joint?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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If anything, more likely a 'bridge' that is just short of a short, possibly triggered by thermal expansion. But I have no experience with firmware and board design so that is entirely a guess. I like my 'you haven't yet sacrificed to the proper gods' guess better. Troubleshooting such issues without proper equipment always takes far too long for me, and if a small sacrifice would work, I'd be all over it (as long as it didn't involve virgin blood).
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Would a beer be considered an appropriate sacrifice? And since I don't want to make a mess the simplest and cleanest approach would be for me to sacrifice it via a glass. Into my belly. That should work, right?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Works for me. Unfortunately, the digital gods seem to have different tastes. But if you pour the beer into the control circuitry while running, the following purchase of a new unit seems to always fix the problem. They seem to have very funny tastes. And expensive.
modified 19-Jan-22 21:15pm.
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web2 lives!
Software Zen: delete this;
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Speak not of the dead
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Yoda, programmed by, it was!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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Your better half routinely does NOT open the door at 0, but often at 7.
“I want to heat my tea for 23 seconds so I hit Quick 30 and pop the door at 7.”
You do not notice and try to heat your tea for 30 seconds, but it has RPN so after the 30 expires, it has to run for 7 more seconds to pop the stack.
It is a feature that lets you run a defrost cycle for 20 minutes followed by a cook cycle at a different power and time.
This was a total guess.
RTFM!😂(as a PDF online)
You can find the model from the UL sticker inside the door.
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My microwave oven firmware is 1-based (probably written by VB programmer). When timer is reset, it shows 01.01.
On the other hand, it is 20 years old and still working.
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RPN (reverse polish notation)
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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The oddity I like is that 99 is greater than 100.
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Agreed!
Why type 130 when you can type 90 as an equivalent.
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Earlier today, I was troubleshooting some problems I was encountering with an opensource library. Google led me to a website, that I won't mention here for fear that some fool may click on it. As I was reading, a little box popped up and assuming that it was the 'we use cookies...blah, blah' question, unwittingly click Yes. Big mistake!
I was immediately directed to a webpage branded with McAfee logos and simulated scans showing threats. At the same time, I started getting toast notifications (again branded as McAfee) stating that my PC was infected and wanting me to click to renew my subscription. Funny, I haven't used McAfee in over a decade, and never on this PC...plus, those McAfee logos look fake and the website at the bottom doesn't look legit. I just ignored it the best that I could...in between threatening notifications every 15 minutes...and got my work done.
When I reached a stopping point, I ran a quick scan of Defender which came back clear, still the threatening notifications persisted. Nothing weird in Task Manager, no new applications installed, nothing new in app data, etc. What was producing those notifications? Finally, I realized that they were coming from Edge! Getting into the Settings under Cookies and site permissions, I saw two new sites where several settings (including Notifications) were set to Allow either by default or explicitly. Blocking everything stopped the notifications and peace has been restored.
What did I learn?
0: Be careful which option you choose on webpage popups, especially when you don't know the site.
1: How to turn off those stupid toast notifications for insignificant or old resources.
2: It's amazing how many options are enabled by default! (at least in Edge...Chrome had less defaulted to allow)
3: I got a look at a pretty good scam. I spotted it as a fake right away, but can certainly understand how a layperson might panic and get taken advantage of.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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That sounds remarkably like the malware I found on my mother's computer back during the holidays. It took a couple rounds with suites of several anti-malware packages to clean the poor beast up.
FWIW, Malwarebytes[^] seemed to be the most effective and the least intrusive.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Navigate to edge://settings/content/notifications , and turn off the "ask before sending". Clear out any sites in the "allow" list. Now no site should be able to send toast notifications, or ask for permission to send them.
(The setting name could be better; as it stands, it sounds like turning the setting off would allow notifications without asking, whereas it actually blocks notifications without asking.)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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