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Nagy Vilmos2-Dec-13 2:07

2-Dec-13 2:07

Are you poor? Apparently if you spend more than 10% of your income on fuel that is 'fuel poverty'. Similar definitions apply for housing and food.

Taking that 10% expenditure what poverty do you suffer from? Most Brits would be in housing poverty at that rate [though I believe 25% is the level there]. I may well be in Gin Poverty.

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harold aptroot2-Dec-13 2:08

2-Dec-13 2:08

Tax poverty?

Nagy Vilmos2-Dec-13 2:11

2-Dec-13 2:11

Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

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OriginalGriff2-Dec-13 2:12

2-Dec-13 2:12

Wife Poverty...

Nagy Vilmos2-Dec-13 2:13

2-Dec-13 2:13

Look on the bright side, the sheep are low cost...

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CBadger2-Dec-13 2:56

2-Dec-13 2:56

Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Look on the bright side

Bright side?
Mmm, sheep... at night... Hmmm | :|

Hmmm | :|

bright side of sheep... Sniff | :^)

Sniff | :^)

bright side of night... D'Oh! | :doh:

D'Oh! | :doh:

I fail to see the bright side Suspicious | :suss:

Suspicious | :suss:

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Corporal Agarn2-Dec-13 3:17

2-Dec-13 3:17

And they keep the lawn trimmed. Smile | :)

Smile | :)

OriginalGriff2-Dec-13 3:33

2-Dec-13 3:33

I dunno, there's shearing, wear and tear on the wellies...

Nagy Vilmos2-Dec-13 3:42

2-Dec-13 3:42

You've never shared a sheep in your life!

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Joe Woodbury2-Dec-13 8:39

2-Dec-13 8:39

Turns out, ex-wife poverty as well. Though at least that has a known end date.

OriginalGriff2-Dec-13 8:55

2-Dec-13 8:55

Let me guess: "When hell freezes over"?

Joe Woodbury2-Dec-13 9:46

2-Dec-13 9:46

April 21, 2019

Marc Clifton2-Dec-13 2:30

2-Dec-13 2:30

I second Harold. Tax Poverty.

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DeathByChocolate2-Dec-13 2:54

DeathByChocolate

2-Dec-13 2:54

Well really! I'm clearly I'm in Cocoa based nutrition poverty! Mad | :mad:

Mad | :mad:

I think I'll write to my MP! .... after I've eaten this Chocolate HobNob ... scrum ... Big Grin | :-D

Big Grin | :-D

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hairy_hats2-Dec-13 3:02

2-Dec-13 3:02

Accountant poverty?

Simon_Whale2-Dec-13 3:08

2-Dec-13 3:08

I'm deep inside fuel poverty as I spend 15% a month of fuel.

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Mendor812-Dec-13 3:09

2-Dec-13 3:09

more then 10% on rent = poverty WTF | :WTF:

WTF | :WTF:

D'Oh! | :doh:

that sounds a little bit insane or did i misunderstood something there then?

Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!

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Nagy Vilmos2-Dec-13 3:39

2-Dec-13 3:39

I think the figure for housing poverty is around 20%; but then I think gin makes a good breakfast. Laugh | :laugh:

Laugh | :laugh:

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Mendor812-Dec-13 3:44

2-Dec-13 3:44

that can´t be true, i mean i consider myself not poor, current job give about 3,200 a month which i think for a junior is quiet good and i pay 500 for rent a month, that would mean i have housing poverty... D'Oh! | :doh:

D'Oh! | :doh:

Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!

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peterchen2-Dec-13 3:43

2-Dec-13 3:43

A household is said to be in fuel poverty when its members cannot afford to keep adequately warm at reasonable cost, given their income.[^]

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Nagy Vilmos2-Dec-13 3:45

2-Dec-13 3:45

On the wireless today they put it at 10% of income.

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harold aptroot2-Dec-13 3:50

2-Dec-13 3:50

That's a useless definition. What is "reasonable"?

peterchen4-Dec-13 8:43

4-Dec-13 8:43

I'd say it's not a definition for mindless drones, but for people.

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harold aptroot4-Dec-13 8:57

4-Dec-13 8:57

I maintain that it is useless. Without saying what "reasonable" is, you haven't really defined anything. What "reasonable" is, is at least as big a question as what "poverty" is. Different people would give different answers. You can never take that definition and win (or even lose) an argument - both sides would claim to be right, and the other to be wrong. It's a definition that allows you to arbitrarily get true or false for a predicate, depending on your mood and the phase of the moon. This definition allows you generate arbitrarily apocalyptic sensational news items, simply by choosing your "reasonable" parameter.
This just in, 99% of EU in fuel poverty! (using our best guess for 'reasonable')"
It just doesn't work.

devvvy2-Dec-13 4:21

2-Dec-13 4:21

peterchen wrote:
A household is said to be in fuel poverty when its members cannot afford to keep adequately warm at reasonable cost, given their income.[^]

I don't think this standard should be applicable to members from South East Asia

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