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Check out the old messages ...
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: Check out the old messages ...
They did seem a bit more useful.
Marc
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All his messages are doing it.
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5 from today and the other 3 from over 1 1/2 years ago.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Since I stopped developing almost exclusively on VAX/VMS, I have worked with Microsoft based systems. To that end, they have been part of keeping me gainfully employed.
I don't necessarily like or agree with everything they do, but I do like getting a paycheck.
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I worked on VAX/VMS for many years good systems.
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Hate to admit this, but I once put my paws on a VAX (and before that a PDP-1180, and a home-brewed LS-11 chipset-based contraption that was at the time sold by Heathkit).
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Same here. .net came out just before my last (final) VMS job ended. Similarly, SQL Server was becoming usable at that time.
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Same here. I often think of myself as a parasite living on the body Microsoft.
I used VMS back in school, miss it some days.
BDF
The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer.
-- PaulowniaK
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They think of you the same way.
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They think of all developers that way...
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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Nonsense. That's why nearly every product of theirs has an SDK. They want developers to make their products better.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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In that case, we're more like probiotics, good for digestion
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I can stomach that.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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We're in deep yogurt now.
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Haters gonna hate. I recently had to develop a solution targeting the Linux platform and after that experience I consider Microsoft to be 'the land of milk and honey'. Microsoft developer tools are superb and (more importantly) Microsoft provides outstanding SDKs and [legitimate] documentation for their APIs.
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Exactly.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I have been making a living for over 15 years with primarily, Microsoft products. Whether I like it or not, they help me get paid.
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Exactly. I've been writing code to Microsoft since DOS 1.1. MS is as good a platform as any, better than some.
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My university years were spent on VAX/VMS systems and I can understand why you are grateful to Microsoft.
The concept of an IDE was foreign to my entire degree course.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: The concept of an IDE
What? You didn't have those wonderful VT100s? They gave access to the editor, compiler, linker, debugger... all from one big solid device.
Well, OK, we also had Turbo Pascal to show us what we were missing.
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It was back in 1988 so I don't remember much other than the orange dumb terminals and the 2 hours of logon time we had in the first year.
Yes 2 hours of computer time on a computer science degree course!
They wanted to train us to figure everything out on paper and use the 2 hours for just typing in and running the code.
So the IDE was in effect paper and pencil
I looked up the VT100 and it looks fairly advanced.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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That was actually how I learned as well...paper and pencil...get away from the computer to do your actual writing and thinking...it was actually sort of better but took longer...not fast enough to suit today's environment.
I kinda miss those 80x25 screen layout grids...things were so much simpler before 'WYSIWYG'.
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DaveX86 wrote: paper and pencil...get away from the computer to do your actual writing and thinking...it was actually sort of better
Yes, much better. At least for student-sized projects.
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Wow! Blast from the past! I was in CS for a couple of years around that time. I think I had special graph paper (80 columns I think) for writing out programs in BASIC, Fortran, Pascal, and C. The lab was just a bunch of dumb terminals where you typed in your program, sent the job to the compiler and prayed. Homework was turned in on greenbar with code and results. The lab closed promptly at 8 each night which did not fit in with the part-time job I had to take at the time...that led to dropping out of uni and working 10 years in manufacturing before going back to finish. Everything was different in the late 90's! I remember feeling awestruck when I discovered that I could write and compile code at home, anytime I wanted! I hadn't been able to do that since retiring the TI-99/4a. Great times then and since!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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