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Javascript is great!..but I've been using it for 24+ years, so I'm used to it. Combined with CSS and AJAX, and there's not a lot you can't do.
My gripe is that after all this time, it's still a PITA to debug in Visual Studio. (probly cause I use master pages)
I still rely on the tried and true alert(whatami); debugging method. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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kmoorevs wrote: Javascript is great!..but I've been using it for 24+ years, so I'm used to it. Combined with CSS and AJAX, and there's not a lot you can't do.
My gripe is that after all this time, it's still a PITA to debug in Visual Studio. (probly cause I use master pages)
I still rely on the tried and true alert(whatami); debugging method.
I still use alert boxes for testing in JavaScript as well! I've been writing Javascript since about 1996 or so. In the beginning, there was no logging console available, so you really had to use alert boxes to test your code.
I love writing JavaScript. It's become so versatile over time that your imagination is the limit. It does have its strange quirks, but they present no problems if you know how to work with them. Why is it that in JavaScript, null is an object? In terms of conditional statements, that's when it gets really weird. If you compare null to undefined, the condition returns true. When you compare undefined to null, the condition returns false. If I remember correctly, that's how it goes, but I learned this so long ago that my memory is faint and vague. It's something along those lines, but either way, it goes to show how ridiculous JavaScript can be. Either way, I really like it!
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I like JavaScript because it is so forgiving.
Error messages like NaN, undefined, are much gentler compared to a bunch of Error messages which come in C# projects on Visual Studio.
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Mainly because it sucks.
Have you noticed that the likeableness of javascript is inversely proportional to a person's age?
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Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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One of the things I say to people worried about learning new languages is once you learn the concepts behind one language, you already know most of the concepts behind most other languages. Learning the new language is mostly a matter of semantics and syntax after that.
Javascript, for someone who's always been exposed to strong types, doesn't really lend itself to all of the concepts of our normal languages. It's strongly NOT typed, allowing all kinds of values and free-form stuff assigned to it, including entire functions. It doesn't follow a lot of the concepts you learned in other languages. I think it's this "bucking of the norms" that really throws people off and gives everyone a bad taste.
IMHO, Javascript being a no-typed language really makes the code-writing and debugging experience a pain in the ass. That and the lack of proper debugging tools in browsers. If you really need Typescript to make the experience that much better, the language and execution environment should have been designed with this in mind. Typescript should not have been an external bolt-on.
Once you get used to it, and that's a steep learning curve for noobs, it's not too bad. I just use the tried-and-true old-school techniques of alerts and peppering the code with console.log everywhere.
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Nice resume. Mr Hendrix, but are you experienced?
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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Great motivational speaker... really lit a fire under the team.
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I know, it's a groaner. Jimi fan
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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I'm obviously missing something here
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Not to me
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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You guys are a diverse group. You might be able to share
some interesting ideas that I haven't even imagined.
I need help figuring out what to do at this point.
In 2016, I started an experiment. Its purpose was to
sharpen my development skills. I didn't set out to
build anything or accomplish any goal. I just started
experimenting aimlessly. It's 8 years later, and I'm
still working on it. I've put at least 10,000 hours
into this thing.
I'm still not sure what it is, or what purpose it could
serve, but I've inadvertently created a web application.
So, what do I turn this thing into? That's where I need
ideas from you guys.
As of right now, I'm building it into a GUI platform
that allows developers to build and run custom web
applications. Unlimited users can create an unlimited
number of web apps, with unlimited 'desktops', and unlimited
'windows'.
Maybe I can turn it into a development tool for
building online video games. Maybe I could build an online
image editing app. I don't know.
Should I place it on GitHub with an open-source public
license so that everyone can build it into something?
That could be interesting.
What do you think?
I haven't yet created a user accounts system for it, so
right now it's open to everyone. I invite you to mess with
it and see what you can break. You can do what you'd like,
as long as it's not malicious, illegal, or causes harm to
anyone. You can create new 'windows', and add scripts/HTML/CSS
to them if you'd like. If any ideas come to mind, please share
them.
The main link is: https://chromosphere.com
I created a 'main menu editor tool' feature that allows you to create and edit
the main menu for the page. You can mess with it here: Main Menu Editor.
Please keep the profanity to a minimum.
Thanks, guys. 
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