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it seems you have the answer to your own question .
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IF COVID taught us ANYTHING is that scientist rarely agree when they don't want to agree.
What I mean is this.
From the first data that the CDC posted many data scientists tracked projections and posted the results to have nearly everyone say they were wrong. I watched at virologists who had 1000's of case studies under their belts get slammed as quacks. I too ran the same calculations and came to the same conclusions and lost respect for people who just discounted the math out of hand.
Roll forward to just this year when the real final numbers came out and nearly all of the people who were mocked and dismissed were right. The numbers told us then and tell us the same thing today the difference is now people agree.
We assumed these statistics, from the majority, were from people, with a high understanding of the math. Turns out the majority were wrong and the few got it right....
So the question to me is
Does knowing Calculus make you a good data scientist?
NO emphatically not.
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I'd say calculus would be needed, but it somewhat depends on the definition of a data scientist. It's certainly possible to be proficient in statistics without needing to get to a deep level of understanding.
Are you the engineer designing the plane or the pilot flying it?
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On a side note, I've often wondered why getting a CS degree requires calculus when few programmers ever use it.
CS is based on logic more than math. I minored in philosophy as an undergrad, and the symbolic logic classes I took taught me a lot more about logic than I ever learned in math or CS classes. That served me well, I use logic in every programming project, but I've never had to integrate anything (which is good, because I've forgotten how).
I think there's long been a misunderstanding about what CS is based on. It's logic not math, Turing wasn't doing math when he invented the programmable computer, he was reading analytic philosophy (Bertrand Russell, in particular) and imagining an automated logical machine based on that. Digital computers are logical machines, they can do math because logic is the foundation of math.
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Calculus is actually pretty easy. One thing that really surprises me is how many music majors claim they don't like math. In reality, Calculus I and Music Theory Two are probably about the same level of difficulty. Things really don't start getting ugly in the math world until you reach junior level ABET engineering courses and apply the Calculus you learn. Calculus I-III and even DiffEq generally aren't that hard depending on *where* you take them, but at some point, you will be expected to apply it and things get more difficult there.
To answer your question, I'm guessing one can skate by in the world of Data Science without knowing Calculus and used pre-boxed algorithms and/or numerical analysis techniques to make observations. After all, a person can write a 3D game now without necessarily knowing classic Physics or Linear Algebra since that person can likely rely on a gaming engine to do that "hard stuff". I think much of Data Analysis these days might be in using low-level Tensor Flow or higher-level Auto ML or super easy regression analysis packages. You don't necessarily need to have a deep understanding of how these things work to use wrapper libraries.
With that said, don't avoid Calculus. It's much easier than you think and there are probably software tutors out there...
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So my wife wanted to leave me 3 years ago. For over a year I drank about 20 standard drinks a night. Recently it's been 3-5, one cocktail while I cook, one with dinner and one in the evening. I went to the GP and he told me I have 70% kidney function and my liver is waving a white flag. So I just gave up, that day. I'll still have the odd cocktail when I take my wife to dinner, but that's it.
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Good job, Christian! I go through a lot of scotch, but so far my liver is being a trooper. But then, I'm not in the 20 drinks per night class; more like 5 or 6.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Yeah I had a rough few years. But I'm autistic so I just do what I want to do, it's not complicated
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That makes me feel much better about my levels.
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I remember a college friend that wanted to drink 24 cans of beer every 24 hours for Spring Break. Yes, he looked like a mess on day 3. He also ended up flunking out of college.
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LOL!!! I managed to hold down a job, despite starting drinking at 3
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Quote: So my wife wanted to leave me 3 years ago. For over a year I drank about 20 standard drinks a night. Well, you partied a lot.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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No, I drank alone and cried
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That was rather presumptuous. The message you responded to, that is, not your response.
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My post was an, admittedly silly, attempt at humour.
Since it was a while ago and Christian has completely recovered, I supposed it was innocuous.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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Fair enough.
Tone never gets communicated very well over plain text. To me, it came across, probably way harsher than you ever intended.
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dandy72 wrote: probably way harsher not probably, entirely surely - Carlo is one of the kindest CPian around.
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I'm fully willing to take you at your word.
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Hope Christian didn't get offended.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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His response is what prompted me to post mine. Reading his follow-ups, I think he'll manage.
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Answer directly to him and you will find it out
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Sorry, just a silly attempt at humor.
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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Good job, you're liver will appreciate it.
About 10 years ago I saw the light and gave up smoking, drinking and chasing fat woman. So far so good!
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else.
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Oh, I still like fat women
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Mike Hankey wrote: chasing fat woman
The problem nowadays isn't chasing them; it's catching them.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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