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Is anyone watching the MSbuild with the paired programming example where the two devs are looking at the code remotely and editing it with each other and running?
Does anyone want to do that? More than once in a lifetime, maybe? \
dev answer: NO!!!
EDIT
Dilbert Comic Strip on 2003-01-11 | Dilbert by Scott Adams[^]
modified 7-May-18 15:16pm.
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I have not tried it. But I have seen it work quite fine when the two devs are equally strong, and are generally in synch.
But two random devs paired? I have my doubts.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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megaadam wrote: equally strong, and are generally in synch
Uh...when have two devs ever been generally in synch?
I'm kidding, but I'm really, really serious.
Code is often very opinionated. And opinionated code can be very good. If the dev is good.
And there are many different ways to do the same thing which are neither better nor worse.
What I think it would lead to -- as I've seen -- is one dev basically saying, "ok we do it this way"
and the other dev just nodding and going along.*
EDIT*
And I'm not opposed to using this for code review, code explanation, etc.
And I'm not against it as a design review, etc.
I'm just saying, live coding/typing, no thanks.
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Quote: Uh...when have two devs ever been generally in synch?
It can happen. These two were, and I would not call it super-exceptional. And they were no just in synch, they were really good. That was a tad exceptional, purrhaps.
Have you seen a lot different teams, and team sizes?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Tried it. Doesn't work.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Tried it. Doesn't work.
I'm assuming you mean the PHILOSOPHY (doesn't work) and
not the TECHNOLOGY.
Although the tech might not either.
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Sometimes both!
It always ends up with an argument and people who'll never speak to each other again. Always. Every time.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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Sounds more like Impaired-Programming to me
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If this was the demo where one dev pretended to ask for help from his manager then I thought it could be useful on large teams/projects. It wasn't pair programming, but a way to get assistance without sharing a desktop
(BTW, true pair programming is a horror.)
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This one (example) was collaborative (another bingo buzzword) where two devs worked together (aka paired programming).
I'm being a bit jaded about it all because I can see how this could be neat with an experienced dev lending a hand, etc. but it just seems like these dog and pony shows try to push that old "paired-programming" paradigm a lot. Which never seemed to work out like someone hoped it might (Beck).
Again, I'm being jaded because I think if my best friend who I've known since elementary school new how to program we could actually do paired programming and do some cool stuff. But for the 99.9% of devs out there it seems more like this would be used in a PHB (http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-05-29^) fashion.
EDIT
Oh this one is even better:
Dilbert Comic Strip on 2003-01-11 | Dilbert by Scott Adams[^]
modified 7-May-18 15:15pm.
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That sounds even worse than facetime!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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It has become glaringly apparent that me and late nights are no longer friends. We were out till around 2am last night/this morning. I am now a train wreck with a headache.
I guess you get out of practice... 9pm is considered a late night in LA.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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I know the feeling. The days when I could stay up all night and still go to work the next day are long past me. Now I'm happily tucked into bed by 11 or 12 ish ... and up at 5 or 6 ready for the day.
It's a sign of maturity, not age I fervently hope...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OriginalGriff wrote: The days when I could stay up all night and still go to work the next day are long past me.
You'd have to travel 50km to find a corner shop wouldn't you? Let alone a pub or night life.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Quote: Whenever dark has fallen
You know the spirit of the party starts to come alive
Until the day is dawning
You can throw out all your blues and hit the city lights
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Exercise, and only drink red wine, or good beer.
Works for me!
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I don't do any of those!
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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I think I'm blessed/cursed with the late night thing. I've always been a night bird (since I was a little kid) and still work until 2-3am. But getting up in time for the 11am standup is hard. I need my beauty sleep.
My ideal workday would be:
- awake for 18 hours
- sleep for 8 hours
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: My ideal workday would be:
- awake for 18 hours
- sleep for 8 hours
And (-2) hours for miscellaneous activities?
Ad astra - both ways!
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You need a different planet!
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I've been told I am on a different planet.
/ravi
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Just a couple minutes in and it is a train wreck.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Confirmation bias?
Not a Nadella fan, but it sounds to me like a typical, boring keynote address.
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Every time he says SaaS I think about all those opaque APIs that I won't be sending my data to :/
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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