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OriginalGriff wrote: Have you considered a saw?
Why not platform shoes?
My desk is fixed at 76 with a kb drawer at 66 (mouse is on the desk) or a stool beside me. Adjustable office chair about 15 cm below kb, arms same hight as kb.
Often on my back in the chair ass almost hanging off the edge, head level with the bottom of the screen and feet somewhere above the screen.
(yup, really like that right now! ... only sit 'normal' for longer intensive typing sessions.)
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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Lopatir wrote: head level with the bottom of the screen
Bad for your eyes, apparently: Computer Eye Strain | Eye Health | Specsavers UK[^]
And that leads to problems later in life (as does bad posture - it contributes to back problems later, and you really don't want those!)
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Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I'm usually 30 or so inches away from the screen (much more when watching movies) and many breaks.
for the back: almost daily exercise - mostly cardio & stretching incl couple of hours extreme hard cycling 5 days a week, and believe it or not done correctly the strange posture maintains flexibility (use muscles to bend, not objects). Only thing that gives me a sore back is standing and sitting still too long and soft mattresses.
getting old: still looking for a cure; though working less (semi retired) mitigates some of the downsides.
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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My desk height is 29". Unfortunately, my desk chair (at home) is about 1/2" too short, so I sometimes use a cushion to ensure I don't get a backache when working for several hours at home.
/ravi
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Have you considered buying a saw and cutting the legs down?
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Have you considered buying a saw and cutting the legs down?
Cause that always works out well and level.
Michael Martin
Australia
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- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Joan M wrote: After setting my chair height as all the internet sites and the chair manufacturer recommend, Aside from all of the answers on how everyone else sits, I suggest but one thing: don't listen to what the 'internet sites . . . recommned'. They don't have your body. Proportions vary - long torso, long legs, the basic built in padding along with any from eating too much (or bones from eating too little).
Like panty hose, "one size fits all" only means it's easier for it to get a tear.
For what it's worth, I've no clue or interest in measuring my desk height, chair height, or any of the rest. If it's comfortable - that'll work for me.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Like panty hose, "one size fits all" only means it's easier for it to get a tear.
Didn't realize we had a resident expert on panty hose. Hey, whatever floats your boat, man.
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dandy72 wrote: Hey, whatever floats your boat, man It makes a great inner layer if you like cycling in very cold weather.
Not that I would do anything silly like that .
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote: cycling in very cold weather
Define cold.
As a Canadian, if you need an "inner layer", then that means the roads are covered in ice/snow and unfit for any 2-wheel vehicle anyway (I wish people actually understood that).
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<0°C; I'm an Ohioan(*), not Canadian.
(*) Mother Nature says you can't have all four seasons in one day. Ohio replies "Here; hold my beer."
Software Zen: delete this;
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never properly looked into it but don't people have varied proportions? not every one has the same arm length to torso length to leg, inside, outside and so on?
But hey, don't get me wrong cliche. Manufacturing off such a system for clothing allows for the relative low cost of clothing.
Desk - which your likely spending 1/3 - 1/4 of your life at. Spend a decent amount that you can, and same for manufactures. Has no one figured out a way to add/remove a few centimetres to desks without breaking the bank, or stability?
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Joan, you are made fine. Just everyone is different. I am 6'(182cm) tall mostly in my torso, My legs are very short. 28"(71cm) I like my desk to be as low as possible. Fortunately my desk is adjustable. I have it at 26.5"(67cm) and wouldn't mind it a bit shorter.
I have been in so many battles with ergo people telling me how to sit. I am 50 and if I sit any higher my back hurts and my legs hurt and my arms hurt. So no, I sit how I sits. and if I fits I sits longer and better.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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Simples! Just grow taller! I did (1.90m) and now my desk fits perfectly.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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currently 29-30", was a few inches higher at my old job (the only good thing about cube furniture). I'm looking at an Uplift Desk to get the height back at home. Their desks go down as low as you'd like, but unfortunately they're a US company and their international shipping is almost a lost cause (Desk frames only, minimum order of $2k), so unless you can find a reseller they're probably out of the question.
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Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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-- Sarah Hoyt
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I got one of these:
Work smarter with Standing Desks, Ergonomic Chairs by Autonomous
And I love it. Not too much $, and only a little hassle to assemble. (Small house. Built it in the kitchen, didn't fit down the narrow hallway so I had to partially disassemble then reassemble in my office.)
Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with this company...other than being a customer.
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The desks at my office are not adjustable so I end up sitting cross legged on my chair.
In my 40 years in the computer business only one place I worked at (a startup) had adjustable desk heights. Unfortunately, I was only there for a little over a year since the place went down the tubes in the dotcom crash.
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I think your best choice is a height adjustable Keyboard tray.
I used to get back pain (between the should blades) and had a dislocating rib (Excruciating).
I was referred to someone who looked at me, touched me in the front about 2 inches from my armpit, and it hurt. He said "That's your problem". I said "No, it's my back". He said "Where it hurts, is a symptom. I am here to address the cause"...
He explained to me. My cold hands were caused by my keyboard being higher than my elbows.
My back pain was from typing in the normal CURVED position across my chest (Shoulders were NOT back).
And my monitor should be so my level eyes look at the 75% mark or a touch lower. To correct the tendency to look down, we want to look up at our monitor. It helps our posture, helps prevent "Computer Neck" or the Hunch many young geeks have.
I mention all of this because it is related. Your chair controls the distance to the floor. I bought my own Herman Miller chair at one company, because it is THAT important to me!
Your Keyboard will be setup to the proper and comfortable height. (And when you ADDRESS your keyboard he has me sit with my palms up, arms out, elbows where they would be for typing, this straightens your back, now put your hands in place without changing your posture).
Your monitors should be ABOUT arms length away. Mine are about 4-5 inches more than that. So I can see the screen without focusing my eyes. Also, I used to wear special glasses OPTIMIZED for that distance, and it got rid of my eye strain.
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The net result. I was seeing a chiropactor every week for the dislocating rib and back issues. He worked on me ONE Time, and I went back again. The problem NEVER happened again. From WEEKLY chiropractor adjustments to NOTHING. We became friends! LOL. (BTW, on 2 occassions the rib popped back out WHILE driving home from the chiropractor. Ugghhh).
GOOD on you for looking into this.
Control your environment for your comfort and optimal usage.
I am at my desk as much as 18hrs on some days. 12hrs is quite common.
But it's comfortable!
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Joan M wrote: I would like a table that would start at 65cm (25.6 inches) but it doesn't seem an easy thing.
I am guessing the real criteria might be '...and cheap too'?
Joan M wrote: I would like a table that would start at 65cm (25.6 inches)
This one does that.
ProDesk 60 Electric Standing Desk | Butcher Block | VARIDESK Sit-to-Stand Desks[^]
I use to have a desk at one company that I could lower far enough that I could sit on my heels on the floor or all the way to standing upright.
May be you could get one with wooden legs and cut out a chunk.
Or get a riser for your chair that fits under the desk. You could probably make that with some wood.
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And who is shocked that criminals would try to scam the JPay system? Apparently, the folk who wrote it.
Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.
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I can understand their shock.
While it is well known that other people's software have bug. Mine is always bullet proof!
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well I think it's good that these people are learning real world skills they can draw on when they are released, I mean isn't that supposed to be part of the program?
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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I think it's called rehabilitation.
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That's not a hack; thats simply abusing and exploiting a broken system.
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