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W∴ Balboos wrote: I'm sure I missed something, somewhere. It sounds like you're well-prepared, and even NASA with their budget to triple-check everything see a rocket explode now and then.
Good luck, wish you a boring tuesday
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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One more add-on (just made active between our emails):
The director and I will be running it as of now - I have a conditional testing for our UID's via our IP's and redirecting the to the new header. We can bang around some more without waking the kids. Importantly, someone other than me can do it.
Thanks for asking!
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There's not many articles on roll-outs, and it is always exciting. Always good to hear about a success
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I'm not sure I have "article" material. Mainly, it's common sense.
Since you seemed interested, here's the result mixed with comments:
Start with a comment:
Sweat the detail before roll-out or sweat a whole lot more after.
Have someone besides yourself push the buttons - they WILL find things. You will not.
As for the results - much angst but only three users had problems (this was an entire new Login management package).
1 - temporary passwords sent by email (provision made for those without email) went nowhere. This was because HR didn't update their records. It went to a black hole.
2 - temporary passwords sent by email (provision made for those without email) went nowhere. This has yet to be explained
3 - nitwit ignored instructions and wondered why his old passwords wouldn't work. The sad part is that this nitwit is in IT (hence, nitwit).
4 - add the extra: two very long days watching my mailbox for any hint of trouble.
All three resolved. Today, I did a check of the password (hash's in SQL table) to see if any were reused. I found a block of six users with the same hash, five of them belonging to a subcontractor group. Mulling over, w/my boss, how we want to handle it.
There are a number of built-in user screwing around prevention feature in place.
Temporary password will only get you to the change-password screen. Period.
Change password forces length and character variations
Change password does not allow change to same password (and I check with case-insensitive, too)
Now, all rolled out and no second shoe has dropped, it's time to tweak things to make them even smoother for users. More events, for example, preventing time-out. A small popup for login if one does time out instead of the login/change/reset page. Customized after users bang around for a while so changes are made to what is relevant.
Only a little of this would make any kind of rule-set. Hardly a footnote, let alone an article.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: I'm not sure I have "article" material. Mainly, it's common sense. ..which is not that common anymore
W∴ Balboos wrote: Have someone besides yourself push the buttons - they WILL find things. You will not. If you know how it is supposed to work, you're not trying to break it enough
W∴ Balboos wrote: All three resolved. Today, I did a check of the password (hash's in SQL table) to see if any were reused. I found a block of six users with the same hash, five of them belonging to a subcontractor group. Mulling over, w/my boss, how we want to handle it. More salt, I'd guess
W∴ Balboos wrote: Only a little of this would make any kind of rule-set. Hardly a footnote, let alone an article. A roll-out is a bit more than just giving someone the link to the software-installer. It cost you a few days, and IIRC, you used a day for preparation.
You're right though, might be more blog-material than article-material.
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"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Is a Horse Whisperer a librarian with a sore throat?
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Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Wouldn't she then be known as a neigh-sayer?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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well with books going out of style it may not be stable career for much longer
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With the rein-ge of replies already in, saddley, I don't think I hoof much to offer. I think I'll strep right here.
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I can see ISBN a long day for you.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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Would there name be Lorin Gytis?
Got my site back up after my time in the woods!
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Man, they are proud of their stuff... Eeeet 'spensive Lucy.
I was playing with their Theme Builder. It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme.
Progress Sass Theme Builder[^]
BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 6-Feb-19 10:49am.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Man, they are proud of their stuff
Currently trying out DevExpress, also proud of their stuff, but very impressed so far.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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They also have impressive support. Or at least had when I used to use them.
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Our shop uses Telerik, so there's no hope of changing to something else. :/
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I've used DevExpress for almost a year now... very happy with their product, and support is quite responsive. Minor updates monthly, with 2 majors each year. I've been really glad we pulled the trigger on this one, and if I had to do it again, I wouldn't hesitate.
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Thanks for the input! There is certainly no shortage of videos and code samples for their components. I'm finding the gridview (asp.net) to be fantastic, just having added exports for excel formats in a matter of minutes...worked the first time. Very nice indeed!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: BTW, "Progress" is a STUPID f*ckin name... It's to make it harder to search for it on the net -- they're following ms' example, and making the UX as uncomfortable and as time-wasting as possible.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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And they want to control your entire development environment with their dashboard thingy. As a now semi retired single developer their stuff is way too expensive to use and their Xamarin tool box did not seem to offer much over the standard controls.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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I created a “telerick ui mvc5 app” and then “configured” it. That caused over 100 “culture” .js files to be added to my project - without being asked first.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: It doesn't provide anything close to an exhaustive theming experience (colors only, and not even all of them), and some of the results are just plain weird, especially if you want to setup a dark theme. Like any of the managers would ever notice; it's not like they're interested in functionality. Try the Telerik or DevExpress stuff on a Windows that is set to "high contrast" for visually impaired users, and choose a bit larger font.
Still, they make a lot of money with making non-standard stuff that is popular somewhere.
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The compiler [that comes with it] does a fairly good job of language standard compliance
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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What language, and how do you know?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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