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What are these "friends" that you mention? I've never heard of them.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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matievisthekat wrote: but how do i get these two to join forces?
Aren't those called "your coworkers"?
And based on my personal experience - as much as I like some of my coworkers, I really try not to go so far in mixing work with personal time and hobbies. Once one of them starts bleeding into the other, things can go bad.
If you ever find yourself burning out at work, your hobby is gonna start to become a lot less appealing - maybe to the point where you're gonna drop the hobby altogether. And if you're only friends with someone through that hobby, and said friend shows up on a Friday evening for a coding session and you really don't feel up to it...that's when feelings can get hurt.
Not speaking from experience here - I've never tried to get friends involved with coding. But I have burned out at work and that has resulted in me completely stopping writing code as a hobby. And frankly I'd rather deal with that on my own than involving some friends who might now be disappointed.
YMMV.
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matievisthekat wrote: but how do i get these two to join forces? You don't; can't force them.
I made some friends over the years in various companies, not all of them coders. I met a girl once, she's now a better coder than me.
matievisthekat wrote: you only get so much enjoyment out of making something on your own Hold on, I do not code with friends. Those are coworkers, not friends. There's a private life and a professional one. I don't mix those.
matievisthekat wrote: it just feels like its missing something. I bet it's bacon.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Maybe you can join an open-source project at GitHub, your friends there will be mainly virtual of course
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do open source projects look for team members or do you just kind of contribute to their repo until they consider you a part of their team?
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I think you just contribute (usually by pull-request) and then they will review your code and see if it is good enough. This is not limited to code, but can also be graphics or documentation for instance.
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This actually works. Have joined at least a few open source projects in my lifetime. Usually it's hard to understand a new codebase right off the bat, but open source projects are usually short on everything including testers. Report a few bugs, with helpful information on how to fix them and wait. Pretty soon you'll be family.
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I would assume you would look in your group of friends, but that's just me.
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Software Zen: delete this;
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I only hope friends remain friends after a few sessions of pair programming. It should not happen that they start fighting over small things like variable naming, indentation, etc., and lose their friendship.
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By mentoring at local school computer clubs in our part of the world, one can share their passion and inspire the younger ones. Friendships build with the other mentors as well.
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"I code alone, yeah yeah, with nobody else." -- George Thorogood
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Careful what you wish for when embarking on a "joint project" ... if there's money to be made; there's always another relative waiting in the wings. A "personal" project is personal for a reason; something to cling to when all desert you.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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TL/DR: here in the lounge at CP
Are you talking irl friends - skin-on friends? If so, I've gotta wonder why. I mean, isn't this what the lounge at CP all about - coding community? We can celebrate your wins with you here - or are you concerned about trusting just whoever comes to this forum? That would make sense, so make some friends here and build up some trust.
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I think I get where you're going, but be careful. It's important to have a non-work life.
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I've been coding for over 30 years and never had "friends who code." However, I have lots of friends who I ride dirtbikes with - and I hooked up with most of them via FB Groups. Try that!
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Is keeping track of all my accounts
So I've signed up to Azure, got access to various tenants, but not all tenants are shown on my profile because that depends on something(?) I'm not aware off.
I'm now looking into Power Apps and on the website I'm not logged in, so I click on "Create an account".
And then I think to myself "But I already have an account with Microsoft..." and I cancel the account creation and login instead and I'm instantly logged in.
After that I went to the Power BI website and I'm not logged in, so I login and I'm instantly logged in again.
But here's the best part, I go to "My account" on both the Power BI and Power Apps page and both pages take me to another website, but different ones, which both show me my profile, but very differently
Not even talking about the drama that's personal account vs. business account on the same email address (in which I've had no say)
I'm currently working with Microsoft support to regain access to a lost Azure account and now I need to sign up for Azure with, again, this account, with which I already have access to various accounts, but whatever
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It sounds like you need an additional Azure account to run a database that keeps track of all your other accounts.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: It sounds like you need an additional Azure account to run a database that keeps track of all your other accounts.
And then another additional Azure account to keep track of their Azure database datasets. True story.
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They make it way too easy to allow things to get confused, and then get completely out of hand.
And then, if you're already logged into the browser when you visit an Azure page, that can add an extra layer of identities to sort out. My solution is to only visit Azure pages from machines (VMs) that are work-related and not used for anything else. If I have to visit an Azure page elsewhere, I try to use browser's private mode (so it doesn't remember previously used accounts), although that does mean having to manually provide login credentials more frequently.
It's a mess.
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I just looked in my password manager (C'YaPass, of course[^]) & I have 192 passwords / accounts.
Yes, as a dev we have more & it is absolutely painful.
But, also, every Computer/Phone/Device user has Password-Fatigue, of course.
As devs it is even worse -- as you said especially with Work accounts versus Personal.
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raddevus wrote: I have 192 passwords / accounts That you know off
There was this time that whenever you bought a product, especially games, you had to create an account to play.
Once in a while I receive a newsletter that I signed up for years ago, haven't heard from for 10 years and suddenly they're there again
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One of my first personal projects was an account/pw manager. Because, who else can you trust?
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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Sander Rossel wrote: personal account vs. business account on the same email address (in which I've had no say) How does that even happen? I have a work email address, and a personal one. Work activity is only associated with the work address. Everything else is personal. I don't mix the two.
If your employer thinks they have the right to monitor your personal email account or social media, it's time to find another employer.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Yeah, my employer's a real d*ck
I'm self-employed though
It's not like that, Microsoft somehow differentiates between personal and business accounts, I don't know the difference between the two.
So, I've created some accounts for customers, like Azure and DevOps accounts, and in most cases Microsoft thinks they're personal accounts (I can't choose, Microsoft just does this).
However, for one client, I always have to login again, with the same email address, because it's a business account.
Probably because that client had an Office 365 with an Azure Active Directory sync enabled when I created the account.
It's really messed up, but at least it works now, except that I have to log in with the same email address sometimes even though I'm already logged in with that email address.
In the past, I've been locked out of accounts because I had to sign in as a business user, but when I signed in Microsoft decided I was a personal user and I couldn't fix or override that setting anywhere.
Microsoft really messed that one up and I know they've been trying to fix it in these past few years.
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