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Luc Pattyn wrote: Well, chances are you would get mostly beginner's replies too.
Luc Pattyn
That wouldn't be a problem if they knew a solution to your problem...
But that if my program won't work because Visual C# 2005 Express Edition cannot handle it, then you really have a problem as a beginner!
I remember how some two years ago I tried Java and that my programming project at the time didn't work, and that the problem was Java and not my code.
I just installed the SP1 for V C# 2005 EE, that is the least I could do. So now I have just one error left during compiling. Still my program won't run!
What do I do now?
Ranger.
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Normally, your first port of call when you have an error is to google for it. Get the text of your error and see if others have had the same issue. There will be some false alarms, and some blind alleys here, but this is a fantastic way to learn things because very often somebody will have written something else along the way that you will want to explore.
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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As long as the compiler generates errors, your code will not run.
I prefer a short edit/build/run cycle, so I dont add lots of code at once.
That normally avoids adding lots of errors at once too.
If you cant get rid of compile errors, my advice is to disable part of the new code,
this should allow you to run the code, and see how it performs.
To disable some code (that the compiler does not yet like), the easiest way is
to use "#if false" and "#endif" statements (be careful to respect all nestings,
e.g. in the remaining code { and } must still be matched.
You could then:
- either use the debugger capabilities (such as single stepping, watching variables, etc)
- include "log" statements that show intermediate values (either in a Console window,
a listbox, or a file).
Any time you are satisfied with the working code, add some code and watch it in operation.
etc.
Luc Pattyn
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Ranger49 wrote: That wouldn't be a problem if they knew a solution to your problem...
Well... that depends on your point of view. I've seen a beginner ask a question here and another beginner answer it. The answer can range from a little bit off target to so utterly wrong you wonder what on earth they were thinking.
If you have a good mix of people of different skill levels a more experienced person can at least step in and correct the additional problem.
For example: I frequently correct answers on questions relating to databases because the answer, while appearing to solve the immediate problem, open up such a huge can of worms that isn't immediately apparent that I feel I have to step if (if only to protect my self from any application they write that I end up having to interact with)
Ranger49 wrote: I just installed the SP1 for V C# 2005 EE, that is the least I could do. So now I have just one error left during compiling. Still my program won't run!
What do I do now?
Google the error message can work. That is the first thing I do when I don't understand an error (Actually, I use search.live.com[^] these days)
If you still have difficulty then ask on a forum like this. Post the relevant snippet of code and the error message. Remember to include anything that the line is dependent on.
For example: If you have an exception being thrown on a line that reads
myCommand.ExecuteNonQuery(); then that line on its own doesn't mean anything to anyone. You have to include the lines of code that show how the myCommand object was built up so we know what kind of query, what parameters were used and so on. It depends on the actual line of code what you need to include. Also, remember to include the real lines of code. There is no point including something that is similar to the line of code (especially for a syntax error) because then we can't see what is really going on.
I hope this helps you make better use of the forums. We are, on the whole, a pretty good bunch of people that like to help others. But we are more keen to help those that show they are at least willing to try to help themselves first by showing what they've tried, any giving the relevant information. Don't worry if you don't know what is relevant yet, if there is pertinent information missing we'll let you know.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: If you have a good mix of people of different skill levels a more experienced person can at least step in and correct the additional problem.
The advice I got here is basically not to try to take too big steps in your learning process.
I appreciate it a lot if someone who has a lot of programming experience will answer my question. But that I am a little bit embarrassed to run into problems which are so simple if you know how to solve it.
It is like riding your first bicycle, you first need to be able to balance yourself and that this takes time and only adults can keep you from falling. So until you reach a certain level of expertise you will run into problems of which you don't have a clue as to what you are doing wrong.
Thanks for everybody who sent me some advice! I got it right now, even though I haven't run this program yet.
Ranger.
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Don't be embarrassed. We all started off as beginners. I just wish there had been sites like this when I started (or even the Internet for that matter).
People will sometimes come down hard on somebody who passes themself off as a professional, but who asks dumba*s questions. If you are honest about your level of experience, then people are more inclined to be helpful and will tend to give you the benefit of the doubt.
The issue that you posted certainly wasn't one that I think anybody would be too upset about answering. You posted it, accepted that you were new to the game and listened with respect. With an attitude like that, you could end up going far in this game. I would rather hire one beginner who was willing to learn than 50 idiots who won't listen.
Keep it up, and I look forward to seeing you on the boards more.
the last thing I want to see is some pasty-faced geek with skin so pale that it's almost translucent trying to bump parts with a partner - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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I concur.
And I would like to add, we are all beginners, maybe at different levels; but the more you
learn the more you get aware there is more to learn (someone has said that before, in
better words I believe).
Luc Pattyn
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Ranger49 wrote: The advice I got here is basically not to try to take too big steps in your learning process.
Absolutely right - But it is also important not to learn bad habits because it takes longer to unlearn them that it did to learn them in the first place.
Ranger49 wrote: I am a little bit embarrassed to run into problems which are so simple if you know how to solve it.
To reiterate what Pete said, don't be embarrased. If you feel too embarrassed and don't want your friends or colleagues to see what you've posted set up a second account and post under a psudonym if you prefer.
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Ranger49 wrote: But that if my program won't work because Visual C# 2005 Express Edition cannot handle it, then you really have a problem as a beginner!
The express edition can run any C# code. That is not the problem
Ranger49 wrote: So now I have just one error left during compiling. Still my program won't run!
So, you post your code with a statement explaining the error, and what you're trying to achieve.
Christian Graus - C++ MVP
'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert
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Christian Graus wrote: The express edition can run any C# code
That is really nice to hear! And lets face it, express edition wouldn't be any good if it didn't.
It is all a matter of me being a newbe.
About the error message that the compiler handed me, I cut and pasted it into the search/how do I? help line in express edition, and I got the impression that this particular error wasn't listed in the help database. If it had been I probably wouldn't have needed to post in this forum...
Ranger.
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All questions are answered here as long as you show that you have made an effort to find a solution yourself. Posts that include existing code fragments are often answered.
Post that as people to do the work for you are usually ignored.
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using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Text;
namespace Operator3
{
class Matrix
{
double a11;
double a12;
double a13;
double a14;
double a21;
double a22;
double a23;
double a24;
double a31;
double a32;
double a33;
double a34;
double a41;
double a42;
double a43;
double a44;
public Matrix(double Ina11, double Ina12, double Ina13, double Ina14, double Ina21, double Ina22, double Ina23, double Ina24, double Ina31, double Ina32, double Ina33, double Ina34, double Ina41, double Ina42, double Ina43, double Ina44)
//this method should make an instance of the class Matrix, instead I get the error message that the name Matrix is the same as the name of the class so that it isn't allowed. I haven't got a clue why this doesn't compile!
{
this.a11 = Ina11;
this.a12 = Ina12;
this.a13 = Ina13;
this.a14 = Ina14;
this.a21 = Ina21;
this.a22 = Ina22;
this.a23 = Ina23;
this.a24 = Ina24;
this.a31 = Ina31;
this.a32 = Ina32;
this.a33 = Ina33;
this.a34 = Ina34;
this.a41 = Ina41;
this.a42 = Ina42;
this.a43 = Ina43;
this.a44 = Ina44;
}
public static Matrix operator *(Matrix M1, Matrix M2)
{
// the compiler doesn't seem to have a problem here
return new Matrix(
//kolom 1
M1.a11 * M2.a11 + M1.a21 * M2.a12 + M1.a31 * M2.a13 + M1.a14 * M2.a14,
M1.a12 * M2.a11 + M1.a22 * M2.a12 + M1.a32 * M2.a13 + M1.a24 * M2.a14,
M1.a13 * M2.a11 + M1.a23 * M2.a12 + M1.a33 * M2.a13 + M1.a34 * M2.a14,
M1.a14 * M2.a11 + M1.a24 * M2.a12 + M1.a34 * M2.a13 + M1.a44 * M2.a14,
//kolom 2
M1.a11 * M2.a21 + M1.a21 * M2.a22 + M1.a31 * M2.a23 + M1.a14 * M2.a24,
M1.a12 * M2.a21 + M1.a22 * M2.a22 + M1.a32 * M2.a23 + M1.a24 * M2.a24,
M1.a13 * M2.a21 + M1.a23 * M2.a22 + M1.a33 * M2.a23 + M1.a34 * M2.a24,
M1.a14 * M2.a21 + M1.a24 * M2.a22 + M1.a34 * M2.a23 + M1.a44 * M2.a24,
//kolom 3
M1.a11 * M2.a31 + M1.a21 * M2.a32 + M1.a31 * M2.a33 + M1.a14 * M2.a34,
M1.a12 * M2.a31 + M1.a22 * M2.a32 + M1.a32 * M2.a33 + M1.a24 * M2.a34,
M1.a13 * M2.a31 + M1.a23 * M2.a32 + M1.a33 * M2.a33 + M1.a34 * M2.a34,
M1.a14 * M2.a31 + M1.a24 * M2.a32 + M1.a34 * M2.a33 + M1.a44 * M2.a34,
//kolom 4
M1.a11 * M2.a41 + M1.a21 * M2.a42 + M1.a31 * M2.a43 + M1.a14 * M2.a44,
M1.a12 * M2.a41 + M1.a22 * M2.a42 + M1.a32 * M2.a43 + M1.a24 * M2.a44,
M1.a13 * M2.a41 + M1.a23 * M2.a42 + M1.a33 * M2.a43 + M1.a34 * M2.a44,
M1.a14 * M2.a41 + M1.a24 * M2.a42 + M1.a34 * M2.a43 + M1.a44 * M2.a44);
}
}
public class Vector
{
double v1, v2, v3, v4;
public Vector(double v1, double v2, double v3, double v4)
//This won't compile, why won't this method just create an instance of the class Vector?
{
this.v1 = v1;
this.v2 = v2;
this.v3 = v3;
this.v4 = v4;
}
public static Vector operator *(Matrix M, Vector V)
{
return new Vector(
M.a11 * V.v1 + M.a12 * V.v2 + M.a13 * V.v3 + M.a14 * V.v4,
M.a21 * V.v1 + M.a22 * V.v2 + M.a23 * V.v3 + M.a24 * V.v4,
M.a31 * V.v1 + M.a23 * V.v2 + M.a33 * V.v3 + M.a34 * V.v4,
M.a41 * V.v1 + M.a24 * V.v3 + M.a43 * V.v3 + M.a44 * V.v4);
}
}
class Program
{
static void Main(string[] args)
{
Matrix M = new Matrix(1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
Vector V = new Vector(1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0);
}
}
}
//This version is really my 2nd attempt of making a class that defines and multiplies matrices and vectors. So I am a newbe. Please give me some advice.
Beginner.
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Your code compiles just fine for me, using Studio 7.1
Luc Pattyn
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Hi there,
Your code compiles for me on VS2005 Professional. Note, I had to make two changes:
1. "class Matrix" should be "public class Matrix" since the Vector class is public, and the * operator is public and returns a Matrix. The default protection level of a class, if none is specified, is "protected". This resulted in an inconsistent protection level - the Vector * operator was public, but the object it returned is protected.
2. I had to make all the doubles in the Matrix class public, so that the Vector class could access them to do the multiplication.
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Patrick Sears wrote: Note, I had to make two changes
Thanks a lot! I can now get it compiled without any errors!
All this is caused by my inexperience I think...
But that I try to log all lessons I learn so that I won't make the same mistake twice!
Ranger
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Hi
I have a little problem.
I'm saving a picture that I captured from a camera to a file like this:
string path = "c:\\DisplayPicture.bmp";<br />
<br />
pictureBoxSavedPicture.Image.Save(path);<br />
<br />
this.Close();<br />
and after that I close the form and return to the main form.
The thing is that I can save the file only once and on the second time that I try to do the same code above, I get an external exception:
A generic error occurred in GDI+.
I was told that I have to realese resources but that didn't help.
Sombody knows what is the reason for this exception?
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place the picturebox into a stream, save from the stream, then release the picturebox.
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Yes, "A generic error occurred in GDI+." is a very popular result; it is unfortunate GDI+
most often isnt more specific.
In your case something went wrong saving the file, my guess is as long as your image is
alive, your file will be "in use" (I know this is true when you use Image.FromFile),
so you can not overwrite it.
You can try to dispose the image which means your picturebox must leave it alone too.
Better is to try ed's stream suggestion.
Luc Pattyn
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The bitmap is tricky with file locks. Use a stream. Dispose of said stream when done. Also, use different file names and delete them when finished.
GUIDs are your friend.
File Not Found
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Hi,
I just want to know when a constructor fires? I know it is when a class is instantiated.
I was working through code and they have a CSContext class. In it they have a property called Current, and it returns a CSContext instance. It also has 1 or 2 constructors.
So if I have the following piece of code, does it mean the constructor is fired?
CSContext context = CSContext.Current;
Please explain?
Regards
ma se
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Hi,
CSContext.Current is propably public STATIC property and returns an instance may be created a time ago. During assignment no constructor is called. You should buy a book about C# or at least read about constructors in MSDN
Wizard_01
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ma se wrote: I just want to know when a constructor fires? I know it is when a class is instantiated.
That's it. That is the only time a constructor is called.
ma se wrote: So if I have the following piece of code, does it mean the constructor is fired?
CSContext context = CSContext.Current;
It depends on what the "Current" property does. I'd imagine that it doesn't.
ma se wrote: Please explain?
A constructor is invoked when you instantiate a class. If the property instantiates a class then the constructor is called on the new object. If the property does not instantiate a class then the constructor is not called. It really is that simple.
If you have access to the source then you can see if the constructor is called or not. If not then the documentation should give some hints.
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Hi all,
I have a datetimePicker control on my form.
The format of that dateTimePicker is CustomFormat ("MMMM yyyy") (January 2007)
However, I have faced a problem while using this Customformat.
If Today's date is 31st January 2007 and if I click the "Up Arrow" Button (to navigate to the February month), then I get an error "Year, Month, and Day parameters describe an unrepresentable DateTime".
This problem only occurs if the date is between 29th January and 31st January. On the contrary, if the current (today's) date is 28th January and if i press the "Up Arrow", I am not faced with that error
Please help
Thanking you in Advance
Pratik Shah
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Seems the up arrow increments the month number and tries to leave the day number intact for you.
it works fine on my system (XP SP2, .NET 1.1 SP1).
Luc Pattyn
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Hi,
Just to reconfirm.
Steps to reproduce
Change the system date is 01/31/2007 (31st January 2007)
The CustomFormat of the dateTimePicker should be "MMMM yyyy" (January 2007) and then try to click the "UP" arrow of the datetimepicker control (to move to the February month).
I have created a sample project and the error is being reproduced. Though my .net version is 2.0, so that could be a difference. As far as the OS goes, the version is same as yours.
Thanking you in Advance
Pratik Shah
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