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Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

1-Sep-09 19:29

Hello.

I'm creating a setup package which is developed by .Net framework 3.5 and I have to include a compelete package of .Net framework 3.5 beside my setup package.

I was really confused because the programe I've developed, is very simple and I've used some simple components like textbox and combobox. but when I want to create setup package, I have to include a package of .Net framework that is about 300mb!

Is there any way to include some parts of .Net Framework that are needed?

Help if you have any idea...

Vimalsoft(Pty) Ltd1-Sep-09 20:49

Vimalsoft(Pty) Ltd

1-Sep-09 20:49

Including the .NET Framework setup will not work and the user will not be able to use it in the installation. So its better you Ship them sepately and ask the user to install the Framework first and after your Application.

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Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

saberimanesh1-Sep-09 21:01

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

1-Sep-09 21:01

tanx Vuyiswa.

You are right and I can include .Net framework package in my setup to be installed automatically before installing my setup. but I don't need to include all components those are included in framework package(like web components or advanced services that is supported by framework 3.5).

I've really used textboxes and comboboxes and I've never used some advanced technologies like Ajax mobile service and so on...

the question is: is there any way to include .Net framework 3.5 partially?

tanx again...

<arash>

Christian Graus1-Sep-09 21:04

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

1-Sep-09 21:04

saberimanesh wrote:
the question is: is there any way to include .Net framework 3.5 partially?

No.

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Vimalsoft(Pty) Ltd1-Sep-09 21:05

Vimalsoft(Pty) Ltd

1-Sep-09 21:05

Am very sorry to say this Smile | :)

There is no Way.

Just let your users install the Framework and after your Application Setup. Its not a Pain Smile | :)

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

Dave Kreskowiak2-Sep-09 4:23

Dave Kreskowiak

2-Sep-09 4:23

No, there is no good way to do this and definately not a free one. There are tools out there that will include just the required parts of the .NET Framework in your app, eliminating the need to install the .NET Framework, but you need to shell out some serious $$$$ to get them.

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Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

Dan Neely2-Sep-09 4:30

Dan Neely

2-Sep-09 4:30

Not unless you're willing to spend upwards of $1000 for the privilege. There're at least 2 companies selling software to do that if you are.

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Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

Christian Graus1-Sep-09 21:01

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

1-Sep-09 21:01

saberimanesh wrote:
I was really confused because the programe I've developed, is very simple and I've used some simple components like textbox and combobox. but when I want to create setup package, I have to include a package of .Net framework that is about 300mb!

Yes, but if you wrote that program in C++, it would have been a lot more work. And if your program was a lot more complex, your installer would still be 300MB. There's no way around that.

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saberimanesh1-Sep-09 21:11

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

1-Sep-09 21:11

tanx Christian.

so we should be sorry for microsoft because my exe file is about 50mb and the client who use this pachage, are not familiar to computer as enough as I need...

Christian Graus1-Sep-09 21:17

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package? thanks alot.

1-Sep-09 21:17

saberimanesh wrote:
so we should be sorry for microsoft because my exe file is about 50mb and the client who use this pachage, are not familiar to computer as enough as I need...

I'm sorry, I can't make head or tails of this. However, while the framework is pretty bloated, I can see how Microsoft wouldn't bother with the work to break it into sections. Otherwise, when another .NET app tries to run on this computer, instead of checking if 3.5 is installed, it would need to work out if it had all the parts needed. And from the point of view of Microsoft, they just want the whole framework to be out there, anyhow.

Your installer, including the framework, will fit on a CD. Most people have internet bandwidth to download it if they don't have it, you can write an installer that downloads it if needed, so not everyone has to download it. It's not complicated, and it's pretty self evident if you think about it. Microsoft has nothing to gain in complicating the process by breaking up the framework for your convenience.

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saberimanesh1-Sep-09 21:31

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package? thanks alot.

1-Sep-09 21:31

thanks alot.

my problem was actually about the size of the package because I'm going to sell it online.
However, would u please give a suggestion about the kind of program that I can solve my problem. I have to convert it to any other languages. I can program with Java-C++-Delphi-.Net-VB and my project is graphical and is about catalog for any occupation.

thanks for ur replies...

Christian Graus1-Sep-09 21:33

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

1-Sep-09 21:33

saberimanesh wrote:
my problem was actually about the size of the package because I'm going to sell it online.

Well, I'd just do an installer that doesn't include .NET, but downloads it if needed.

saberimanesh wrote:
I have to convert it to any other languages. I can program with Java-C++-Delphi-.Net-VB and my project is graphical and is about catalog for any occupation.

Well, if you are scared of the runtime, then you can use C++, and either use MFC and distribute that ( a lot smaller ), or just use the win32 API if you want REALLY small.

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PIEBALDconsult2-Sep-09 3:47

PIEBALDconsult

2-Sep-09 3:47

Most likely any one who would want to use your software already has .net; so don't worry about it.

On the download page (or whatever) simply state that the app requires .net x.y and let the potential user act as he chooses.

Re: How to use some part of .Net framework in my setup package?

saberimanesh2-Sep-09 4:03

how to delete mail from mail server using C#

2-Sep-09 4:03

thanks for ur answer.

the main reason for my question was the size of .Net fw 3.5 package and I was looking for a way not to install that completely and I didn't get any appropriate way.

tanx again.

khosnur1-Sep-09 19:25

1-Sep-09 19:25

i programmatically send and read mail and save the mail into my database.
but i want delete a mail which will delete from my database and also from my mail server.how can i delete mail from mail server???

please help me.
advance thanks

Md Shafikul Islam

ThatsAlok1-Sep-09 19:50

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1-Sep-09 19:50

Which mail server are you talking about??

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khosnur1-Sep-09 20:38

1-Sep-09 20:38

linux server using pop3 and smtp

Tamer Oz1-Sep-09 19:55

Tamer Oz

1-Sep-09 19:55

If you are talking about Exchange server there is a web service of Exchange 2007 sp2,
if you are talking about pop3 mail server you can try connecting to server by simulating telnet from your application and delete mail.

khosnur1-Sep-09 20:43

1-Sep-09 20:43

many many thanks
i am using pop3 mail server i programmatically connect the server and the mail ID but it do not delete the mail would u see the code and answer me the fault.

public MAIL_ERROR Connect(string host, int port, string username, string password)
{
try
{
_conn.Host = host;
_conn.Port = port;
_conn.Connect();
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(_TimeOut);
return Login(username, password);
}
catch (Exception e)
{
System.Diagnostics.Trace.Write(e.ToString());
return MAIL_ERROR.ERROR_CANTCONNECT;
}
}

public MAIL_ERROR DeleteMessage(int id)
{
if (this._state != POP3_STATE.POP3_LOGGEDIN)
{
throw new MailException("You are not logged into the mail server");
}
string ret = "";
SendCommandSynchronous(string.Format("DELE {0}\r\n", id), out ret, false);

if (ret.Contains("OK") == false)
{
throw new MailException(ret);
}
else
{
return MAIL_ERROR.ERROR_NONE;
}
}

Tamer Oz1-Sep-09 20:58

Tamer Oz

1-Sep-09 20:58

Everything seems ok.

Could you pls send the SendCommandSynchronous method

khosnur1-Sep-09 21:21

1-Sep-09 21:21

thanks again for reply..
here is the method:

private MAIL_ERROR SendCommandSynchronous(string cmd, out string response, bool bMultiLineResponse)
{

// Remove any data that was left over on the buffer
string deadData = _conn.Receive();
_conn.Send(cmd);

response = WaitForResponse(bMultiLineResponse);
return MAIL_ERROR.ERROR_NONE;
}

private string WaitForResponse(bool bMultiLine)
{
int timeout = 5000; // wait 10 seconds for response

int waitedTime = 0;
string strRet = "";
while (waitedTime < timeout)
{
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(_TimeOut);
strRet += _conn.Receive();

if (CommandComplete(strRet, bMultiLine) == true)
{
return strRet;
}
waitedTime += _TimeOut;

}
return strRet;
}

Tamer Oz1-Sep-09 21:44

Tamer Oz

1-Sep-09 21:44

Could you try

private string GetResponse()
{

    //read till finding new line, return.

    string strPrev = null;

    string strCurrent = null;

    string strMessage = null;

    NetworkStream ns = default(NetworkStream);

    ns = client.GetStream;//Previously instanced and connected TcpClient

    while (true)
    {

        byte[] buffer = new byte[1];
        //read by 1 byte 1 byte

        ns.Read(buffer, 0, buffer.Length);

        strCurrent = System.Text.Encoding.GetEncoding(1254).GetString(buffer);

        strMessage = strMessage + strCurrent;

        if (strCurrent == @"\r" && strPrev == @"\n")
        {

            break; // TODO: might not be correct. Was : Exit While
        }


        strPrev = strCurrent;
    }


    return strMessage;
}

private void SendMessage(string str)
{

    str = str + "\r\n";
    //Controlchars.CrLf '10+13

    byte[] buffer = System.Text.Encoding.GetEncoding(1254).GetBytes(str);

    NetworkStream ns = client.GetStream;


    ns.Write(buffer, 0, buffer.Length);
}

khosnur1-Sep-09 20:46