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Ok, ok, 2 deaf - keep your opinion, you won.
So lets resume, please take the following with irony:
1. RSS is the most popular alternative to view a web and only dummies don't know about it and don't deserve to understand some more (thank you for the statistical report of the RSS usage in the full world).
2. RSS bitmapped buttons are perfect (don't understand why you insist in this point, in my second post I was hoping to be more clear about it... was the "Chris" name called really necessary? Right Jesus?).
Heath Stewart wrote:
If you get mad about something someone wrote, you should probably stay indoors and offline: this world is full of opinions and critisism
Your previous post didn’t sound to me like something that gives space to a discussion; anyway I made my try to keep it open – I was the one who open the thread, right?
Why:
Heath Stewart wrote (2 posts above):
Because that RSS button is pretty much de facto button and practically everybody these days knows what it is. Why waste precious page real estate for something so commonly known?
You put a "fact" affirmation in what should be an "opinion" without material to give me reference to grow in that direction - the "waste" was inappropriate - anyway I’ll gain some more knowlege and money on that "waste" working with more skilled people (on ASP/PHP).
The point: searching in the web, I find more "how to make an RSS" than "what for" and "how to use RSS"; no RSS dictionaries and for the most common web sites I look at, don’t have RSS a bitmapped button (or RSS reference as well - makes no difference).
The first time I click on the CP/RSS button, a XML text come out - my conclusions that time where: "good, if someone wants to add CP news in their web site, this is useful", but I didn’t know about the existence of RSS readers - sorry If I’m "dummy".
Let me share this experience: sometimes CP members contact me directly with private messages or emails because they don't feel to post a question or a suggestion in CP message boards - this because the "experts" ones will post things that are called "opinions", but at the end are not and make discrimination.
These attitudes push people "indoors" and "offline", and sorry if I insist, people never deserves to be pushed away.
People are free to say what they want (word freedom - but sometimes "moderators" kill their voice anyway). I didn’t kill your voice, and I was free to let you know my opinion, right?
You are an editor? You help people to grow posting correct and useful articles, no? So please try to understand my point of view. In the past I’ve encourage you to post an article because I believe it was useful. If I didn’t have that opinion, I wont "waste" my time inviting you to write it.
Probably all this is caused only by a banal misunderstanding - and sorry if the thing come from my part.
For sure we are both 2 intelligent persons, but I'll never accept destructive "criticism", you have to convince me that your opinion is the most correct, not play on mine.
You are right, you won... I'll stay "indoor" and "offline", enjoy
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Is the responsibility of every web site that chooses to employ RSS to educate everyone about RSS? Should we next make every word longer than 4 letters and every acronym a link to a dictionary or a jargon file?
Welcome to the age of information resources (actually, this started about 20+ years ago in academia and grew fast with HTTP and HTML). There's search engines like google that can tell you anything. If someone doesn't know what "RSS" is, google will give them more than enough links to more information.
The point is that sites like CodeProject and MSDN (just to name a few development sites that use RSS) dedicate their web page real estate to what the site is about - development. If you haven't noticed, Chris (the creator and sysadmin of CodeProject) has packed the front page with lots of information, and the little RSS button fits nicely in the headers.
And when I say "de facto", I mean that RSS logo is used by most sites. If you go to the official RSS 2.0 specification web site - http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss[^] - it uses a similar icon with "XML". The blogging community et. al. decided that one with "RSS" makes more sense. There's a history there. It isn't required, but it's common and therefore recognized as an icon (just like the Nike "Swish" is a recognizable icon, for example).
So, in closing, it's not the responsibility of every site that uses RSS to educate people on RSS. If they want to know, they can search for it themselves.
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Personally, i rather like the traditional minimalistic [RSS] links... but i do see the value in providing some information to those not familiar with the technique. Perhaps comments could be added to the XML feed, giving unwary readers a heads-up? Something like:
<!-- This is an RSS feed. While you *could* read it as-is, that's not much fun. Search around and find RSS reader software, then point it to this URL - enjoy! -->
Alternately, something like this:
RSS
...keeps it clean, while providing some more info to the uninitiated. 
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Shog9 wrote:
Personally, i rather like the traditional minimalistic [RSS] links...
I must admit that it's for sure the best choice,
The help cursor is really cool!
Of course, the CP look must remain untouched so... I agree, a small simple implementation sample speaks more than words...
Here was the idea of my suggestion (apart that the RSS button was replaced with text because I was not able to use the <img> tag)
Last 10 updates (category: MFC / C++) RSS [What is this^]
and... on the left, under the "other stuff" menu pane (on the bottom of CP home page):
Thats all.
BTW: posting on CP is a nightmare... it takes a life time to do everything...
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Maybe I have not noticed where this feature is at, but it would be cool to click a button and have a list of all sponsors for the site. Today was yet another time that I noticed an ad just as I had clicked a button to go somewehre else. It is a pain to have to keep refreshing the page until you see the ad you want 
So, my vote is for a sponsor section that list all sponsors and maybe thier graphic ad that you can find when you need it.
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humm, CP has thought of that too.
"When death smiles at you, only thing you can do is smile back at it" - Russel Crowe (Gladiator)
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A little bit of social engineering might be useful to get people to answer more questions in the programming forums:
If the stats of how many replies they made to posts in the programming questions forums were shown as prominently as their overall post count.
I.E. we would hopefully then see posts along the lines of "Wooohooo my 500th reply to a programming question" rather than "Woohoo my 5000th irrelevant post about nothing".
This way tirelessly supportive people like Heath in the C# forum would get their due recognition and it might give people a little incentive to answer questions which would re-enforce one of the pillars of CodeProject.
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Just saw that some forum systems do have the ability (for the admins, I guess) to write new threads that always appear at the top of a forum for announcments or other important things.
Maybe CP could have something like this too... (and maybe I should add it, since long time ago I wrote the original CP forum-code...  )
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very good idea. i guess time to time annoucement from the cp should be conveyed to majority of the ppl as quickly as possible. I bet not many ppl knew that CP will be down for its server upgrades.
"When death smiles at you, only thing you can do is smile back at it" - Russel Crowe (Gladiator)
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While I'm not sure how the dynamic view feature for Mozilla is implemented I assume it to work for Safari, too. Ok, Safari ain't really the browser of choice for the intended audience, I'm currently forced to browse the web via MacOS X. And being a pedantic x-browser JS advocate (or something in this direction, greetings to irc://irc.efnet.net/#javascript), I'd like to see my favorite development site to do feature detection the right way, testing for feature support instead of browser version/name. This way, the site would support future browsers out-of-the box, too
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Or Should I say... Code Project On Delphi?
Would it be possible to add Delphi as a category?
Any issues?
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Great idea, Uwe! We can have a forum called "Lucy's Corner - The Doctor Is In - $.05"
Heard in Bullhead City - "You haven't lost your girl -
you've just lost your turn..." [sigh] So true...
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Roger Wright wrote:
Great idea, Uwe! We can have a forum called "Lucy's Corner - The Doctor Is In - $.05"
We already do!![^]
And for those that need a little more help than what Lucy can provide, we have this[^].
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Is Codeproject cosidering to start a messenger service kinda thing.
There are times in the forum the person wants to clarify further on the answer he has recieved, Some times it takes days if not hours.
Last time I was sober, man I felt bad
Worst hangover that I ever had
It took six hamburgers and scotch all night
Nicotine for breakfast just to put me right.... Dire Straits
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I don't agree with this. It's entirely our own choices if we wish to continue a discussion.
Speaking for myself, I'll stop answering questions if I feel I've already spent enough time on the issue, if I can't think of a suitable response, if I think I've already provided a suitable response, or the original poster should be looking for other sources of information.
If the responder wishes to receive a message notifying a response, they can do so. CP's emailed notifications seem to be fairly reliable.
You have to allow for any time-zone differences between yourself and any other correspondents, time to research answers, and simply the times of day that people wish to browse CP.
CP does not (as far as I am aware) employ people to answer questions; the people who answer questions are simply other users of the site. Don't assume that any answers you receive are authoritative (unless you get really lucky and are answered by the author of a problematic component).
I could go meta at this point, and discuss why I answer questions at all, but this isn't the place.
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I agree with you.
Last time I was sober, man I felt bad
Worst hangover that I ever had
It took six hamburgers and scotch all night
Nicotine for breakfast just to put me right.... Dire Straits
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I agree completely. Posters (the code monkeys at least) need to do some work for themselves. I want to also decide when I stop trying to help and make them help themselves. I already have enough problems from people getting my email off the automatic replies and emailing me directly, even using that as my MSN Messenger account (being that it's my Passport).
I agree that Chris should not consider this at all. This is a forum - not a chat site.
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I am going to do a signal processing job to a sampled speech signal.
I have already done the sampling to a speech signal and got the sampled 60001 values.
The next step I am going to do is to normalise the sampled values,i.e.
set the maximum value to +1 and the minimum value to -1. By using the
function "wavread", the read in data has been put in the range of
[-1,+1]. According to what I have found, the maximum value of the
sampled 60001 values is 0.9920, while the minimum value is -1. So, my
algorithm is to divide all the +ve values with 0.9920. Is it correct?
I tried the following program:
m = max(sv); % sv is the array containing the sampled 60001 values
for k = 1:60001 % sv2 is another array I am going to store the
if sv(k)>0 % normalised values.
sv2(k) = sv(k)/m % if the element is +ve, divide it with m.
else
sv2(k) = sv(k) % if the element is 0 or +ve, keep it.
end
end
When running the above, I found that it ran very slowly and I can see
the data rolling on the screen of Command Window. Can anyone give me
some advice on how to do the loop with C/C++ but using the compiler of MATLAB?
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Wrong place to post his message.
Last time I was sober, man I felt bad
Worst hangover that I ever had
It took six hamburgers and scotch all night
Nicotine for breakfast just to put me right.... Dire Straits
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Have you ever thought about sending a link to the news letter instead of the full letter? It might save some server time, and save some of my e-mail box space . Maybe it could be done as an option?
Thanks for the site,
Jerry
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That way I might even be able to read the newsletter... I really don't know what I did to offend the hamsters... 
Paul
van der walt is qualified to answer - googlism
modified 18-Jul-18 11:59am.
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