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Quote: First off, it isn't public - it's restricted to "trusted members"
Sorry, but that makes it much more suspicious... I remember times...
Yes, sure I see also the fight here against spammers and you are doing a great job! But nevertheless a counterweight won't harm anyone;)
Quote: That's where volunteers come in, and I remember letting your posts through
Thank you;) Well, I also take the right that my posts were neither spam nor abusive. Ok, sometimes very (too) direct... sorry for that
modified 24-Apr-21 21:01pm.
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Quote: Sorry, but that makes it much more suspicious.
I don't think so. The alternative is to let it through and kill it as soon as possible after, and we tried that.
The result is called a spam flood and it very quickly becomes the only thing anyone can see on a site, particularly when the spambots locate a vulnerable site.
Public moderation of spam and / or abuse is in fact doing exactly what the spammer / abuser wants - making their cr@p public. Private moderation is the norm, and in fact the only way you can have an "open" site in modern times with more than four or five viewers ...
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Ok ok, I don't like to waste your time. In my experience here, I trust you so far more or less (more than less). But sorry there are other so called 'protectors' I would ... @@redacted@@
modified 24-Apr-21 21:01pm.
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First of all... I am writing this on my own perception / experience with the site and my own protector status.
Protector status is like the MVPs it is a temporary status that can end in several ways:
- After a certain inactivity of a protector
- Dropping the status voluntarily
- Status revoked by the admins due to many possible situations
So... if you think some of us protectors are not being moderated or "abusing the badge" just give a message to the admins. Explain why you think that and give a couple of links / concrete examples.
I bet that @Chris-Maunder or @Sean-Ewington would take a close look to check your statements and if you are right, I suppose that that protector / those protectors would get the status revoked pretty fast.
And if I am one of the "so called protectors" you say, I would like to ask you what I have done that you don't agree, so I can explain myself or even apologize if it was a mistake.
At the end we all are normal people that can have errors or misunderstand a concrete context (or lack of it) due to "chat / forum environment" and missing non-written information.
M.D.V. 
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I'm afraid he is no longer with us - I know not why, I see no reports in S&A for his ID.
He may have departed of his own free will.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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maybe a sucket puppet that acomplish his target of blaming on protectors?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Mr RussianName
Written in Greek.
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It's all Greek to me! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Except Greek. That's Aramaic to me.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Message Removed
modified 19-Apr-21 21:01pm.
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For some time now when I try to rollback a previous version of a QA entry I get the following error message:
Failed to rollback article. Error:Creation of article file is not enabled . Please try again later
Since it was rarely important I have not done anything about it. I just tried again and duly got the error message. However, when I refreshed the page I notice that the rollback seems to have worked.
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This article was published and accessible even to non-members despite work-in-progress flag in the submission wizard:
https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/5297157/Markdown-Calculator
I don't remember that I removed the check on the checkbox, but even if I accidentally did, I made sure the flag is there. Then I deleted the article, but it is still visible.
It is an essential problem because it makes a spoiler: the plan was to publish the article exactly on April 1st, 2021.
[UPDATE]
After a while, the content of the deleted article is not rendered anymore, except its title, subtitle, and abstract — still a spoiler.
It is shown as "deleted". Now, I'm not sure that I can update it while keeping it invisible to the readers. Will I be able to use the same URL when I publish it on April 1st? If not, will I be able to keep the same name and last part of the URL, ".../Markdown-Calculator"?
Thank you.
—SASergey A Kryukov
modified 15-Mar-21 1:33am.
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Thanks very much for your message. You should be able to update that deleted article and when you post it on April 1, it will be treated as a new article and will retain the same last part of the URL.
Currently people can only view the heading of your article if they use the link. It is not visible in searches or on the home page, and it is not visible in your article list.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Thank you, Sean.
This is good enough.
Are you saying that I have to "uncheck to publish" as we do with not published but not deleted articles?
—SASergey A Kryukov
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If you want to make sure an article stays in Composing status, check the "work in progress box" before publishing. If you have a deleted article and check that box, the same should also be true.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Just on The Insider News as far as I can see:
Is this another problem with Kent's flux capacitor?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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He needs to stop travelling at over 88mph.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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What is happening in the "quick answers" forum that marks a years-old post as updated? When you look at the post, nothing has been updated except for the date at the very bottom. 
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It happens when a spammer tries to post a message into the QA entry.
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As Richard said, spammers do a quick search and resurrect very old questions, then we spot and nuke them, which leads to the spammed thread to appear as "changed / edited" but there is not trace of the new content.
What usually ends up adding a couple of posts more because the people was trying to help, without realizing the question is that old.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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So is the date at the bottom of the post simply saying that some element of the post has been changed? If so, is there a way for the thing that updates that date to differentiate between an admin "nuking" spam content -vs- a legitimate post? In other words, don't turn on the "dirty" flag if the change was the result of spam being deleted.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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It's not so much an issue of turning on the flag. It's more about reverting the date if a deletion was due to spam.
Or better: Each time there's an edit/post/answer we simply scan the question and all answers and grab the latest date as the "last date something happened".
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I think I suggested this a long time ago, but may when a question gets to be a certain age, it remains in the system, but nobody can post comments or solutions to it, and the question and all existing comments/solutions become read-only.
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I'm not keen on this approach purely on the basis that things change. In weeks sometimes. It's always handy to have someone come along and say "that worked 2 years ago, but here's how you need to do it now"
cheers
Chris Maunder
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