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Luc Pattyn wrote: So it was a platinum one and a white/bronze five that got combined.
But that was my whole point... i have a Platinum status in Debator. But the calculations says my vote was considered as White/Bronze... why?
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If you send me a link to the item in question I can review the votes.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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For example take this: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3478452/Re-accessing-textbox-which-is-inside-ascx-file.aspx[^]
If needed more, there are few more related to the same question... I don't remember any other thread for now... but i can test it(and provide data to you!) anytime if you need more! 
It keep's happening with me all the time at Lounge too...
if i downvote 5/5 (1 vote) -> 4.56/5 (2 vote)...
if i upvote 1/1 (1 vote) -> 1.44/5 (2 votes)... and all after i too hold a platinum status!
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Were you able to have a look at it?
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I haven't been able to yet. It's on my list though.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Few days back, when there was a re-calculation of reputation points, lots of people(me too!) found that organiser points took a good dip!... Chris concluded, might be Reported articles/messages might be the reason.
It looks like missing Reported articles/message is not the only reason. I found, whenever a message (that adds a point in Debator category) gets voted up, 1 organiser point is awarded to the poster.
So overall, in case of Up-vote +5*weightage added in debator points & +1 added in Organiser points for the OP who posted the message.
As per FAQ, i don't find this mentioned. Why does a Poster gets 1 point of organising category when he did not do anything related to it?
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That was a little convoluted. Can I assume that you are asking:
"Does a member who posts a message get Organiser points if someone votes on their message?"
If so, the answer is "No, they don't", and "I'll check to make sure they don't".
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: "Does a member who posts a message get Organiser points if someone votes on their message?"
Yes!
I post a message, you upvote me... i get upvoted points in debator category + 1 point in my organiser category.
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Chris, it seems a lot of the people who care, are reading but not understanding the table; basically because:
1. it sometimes is overly verbose;
2. on occasion it seems really wrong;
3. and you are not doing what it says (You're doing much better, but not clearly saying so). I'd suggest you explicitly show the weight effect.
So rather than
1. The author of an answer receives points due to their answer being up-voted by another member (under Quick Answers). --> 5
2. A member receives points for answering another member's question (under Quick Answers). --> 10
3. A member down-votes a message in a general discussion forum. --> -2
WTF? who is loosing points here?
I'd say (always referring to the recipient as "A"):
1. an answer by A gets up-voted by B (under Quick Answers). --> 5 * authority(B)
2. Member A posts answer to B's question (under Quick Answers). --> 10 * 1
3. Message by A gets down-voted by B (in general discussion forum) --> -2 * 1
where authority(X), author(X), debator(X), ... are similar weight functions that map a particular
reputation component's color of member X to a weight factor (white/bronze=1, silver=2, gold=4, platinum=8).
And * 1 indicates no weight applies.
FWIW: if you're interested and provide source code, I'd be willing to give it a go.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.
I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).
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Or it could be that Chris is absolutely hammered and is triaging.
Patience, grasshopper.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Yep... waiting! ... and will wait till the you change the issue status to 'Affirmative'... 
It just looks like i hit one of the big/important bug! 
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I see it again... try this: I just posted this message[^]... upvote me (only if you like!) and you will see there is a rise in my organizer points too!
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Yes confirmed, I voted your message up and your organizer points went from 695 to 696.
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Thanks Moak for confirming it! 
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Further testing show's that the debator points are doubled.
Tested with 3 or 4 of your messages.
I upvoted you a 5 and checking your points you gained 11 points
Debator gains 10 (and should be 5)
Organisor gains 1
Unless voting weight is taking into account and I'm important enough (doubt it but hey you never know) to be able to award twice as many points
PS: Your welcome for the 35+ points 
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Tom Deketelaere wrote: I upvoted you a 5 and checking your points you gained 11 points
Tom Deketelaere wrote: and I'm important enough (doubt it but hey you never know)
Yep. Thats fine. points are level weighted. You are 'important enough'! Your every upvote in general forum messages would give 10 points. Looks like currently you belong to x2 category!
P.S.: I will see where i can return your favor!
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Take a look at this account:
http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/View.aspx?mid=4583679[^]
It says -38 debator
However he has posted 2 messages in general forums (lounge) and some more in article forums (probably not counting as general forums)
The FAQ[^] states:
Post message = 1 point
Downvote on a message = -2
He has 1 downvote on 1 of his messages
So by my math he should have 0 points, how does he have -38? (my math could be wrong here )
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Tom Deketelaere wrote: Post message = 1 point
Downvote on a message = -2
It's not about just these two. There is one more line written in FAQ, which actually is playing around with numbers!
"The more a member's reputation increases within a given category, the more their votes count towards other members when voting on items within that reputation category.
For example, a member with a high Authority ranking (someone who answers a lot of questions) but a low Author ranking (they don't post many articles) will have their vote counted strongly when voting on answers, but not so strongly when voting on articles"
Though the eaxct weightage is not said in the FAQ... so cannot explain you the calculation part.
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hmm still would be a very heavy vote to make him go down 40 points with 1 vote but I guess it's possible for some of the high level debators
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Yep! very heavy one
BTW there is surely something... I observed something off late and am waiting to confirm it once more before posting.
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Sandeep Mewara wrote: BTW there is surely something... I observed something off late and am waiting to confirm it once more before posting.
Keeping us in suspense are we
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Well the suspense is out now! 
Above two threads...
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Also if you remove a message, you have still lost the points (and you lose 1 extra for removing the message)
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Those two messages posted in the lounge have been fairly well savaged by some high ranking members. The combination of multiple, heavy downvoting means he's well and truly underwater.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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