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I've got the message link, but the same thing has happened again, in the lounge this time. Both of these were removed with a single one-vote. Is there a membership level which has a weight of 100%, because neither of these messages were remotely offensive in my opinion
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some or all of the four checkboxes don't work properly:
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when editing a message several times, the checkboxes do not persist their state (except maybe for the top one "send me an e-mail").
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whatever you do with "Allow private email replies to this message" the "e-mail" option does not show when the post is published. We cannot reach each other by e-mail anymore (except probably by searching for old messages, when the e-mail was always present)
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I noticed strange interactions between "Do not interpret HTML tags (good for code snippets)" and "preview". I would expect "preview" to show the message the same way it will show when "post message" gets clicked, however the preview depends on the ""Do not interpret HTML tags..." settings even this gets changed after the text has been composed.
Is there a problem with checkbox values not getting stored due to cookie problems? due to CP using many servers? please advise what more observations you want, then fix it.
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1. 'Allow private email replies' being set from your persistence settings, not the message settings on edit. Fixed. 'Do not interpret html' is unchecked on edit, because this value isn't actually stored with the message: it just determines what processing happens to the message after it is posted. Your settings are persisted on new messages though.
Persistence is done based on new messages posted, not messages edited.
2. Fixed.
3. I can't reproduce this. Can you give me an example?
I'll be uploading the fixes in a few minutes.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hi Chris,
I finally came around to check the checkbox situation more thoroughly, and it is still is not OK. Here are some observations, keep in mind I start with xooo (or xoooo) i.e. only the first checkbox is checked. The list of problems is probably not complete, as the situation is rather complex.
BUG1. I create a reply to an existing message of mine on my personal page; I get checkboxes xoooo and don't touch them. When done the reply does show an e-mail button.
BUG2. I want to edit that same reply, the checkboxes come up as xooxo, so "Encode HTML tags" got checked without me asking for it.
BADFEATURE1: "Persistence is done based on new messages posted, not messages edited."
That is totally confusing, I can modify checkboxes, click "publish" and the modifications are lost. Why trouble the GUI with such an inconsistency?
Some more info:
1. I have nothing to report about the first checkbox, I never touch it, it is always checked.
2. I have nothing to report about the fifth checkbox, I never touch it, when present it is unchecked.
3. Trying to reply to a message (actually one of mine) I just now got an error I don't understand and have never seen before:
Items that need attention:
* You must supply an email and name for this message.
* There were problems with your new message
I had to log out from and in to CP to get rid of it (this happened first, everything else in this message are observations after this relogin)
I did not touch my cookies.
4. the problem I reported earlier, where a preview handled tags differently from publish has vanished, I can't reproduce it any more.
Some suggestions:
1. I still would like to see the exact same checkboxes on my personal settings page, their current state IS part of my settings, and some people have trouble finding them anyhow
http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3102179/where-is-the-setting-that-controls-whether-the-option-to-e-mail-me-is-shown-on-the-Forums.aspx
2. the "Allow private email replies to this message" checkbox still does not make much sense to me, since there are a lot of existing messages that show the e-mail button anyway. IMO allowing email is a person-oriented (and temporal) setting, not a message-oriented setting.
Suggestions:
(1) make it a "Allow private email replies to this message's author" thing
(2) don't show an e-mail button on a message, just a reply button. This one launches a reply editor page that holds several buttons, including "reply on public thread" (the current "publish") and, if the user allowed it, "reply using private e-mail".
(3) do this also for existing messages, so all the old "e-mail" buttons should be gone then.
3.
The encode/ignore HTML tags stuff does not feel right. I would propose something different:
- remove the "Do not interpret HTML tags (good for code snippets)" checkbox
- remove the "Encode HTML tags when pasting" checkbox
- apply HTML tag substitution (> becomes > etc) to all selected text, (and surround with PRE tags) when the "CODE BLOCK" button is clicked
Maybe similar for "INLINE CODE" button.
RESULT: much simpler, and more probability PRE tags (and CODE tags) will be used.
PS: I don't know how you do this magic, if you are aware of the pasting, couldn't you automatically do
the PRE tagging if it looks like code (maybe based on length > 1 line, and first word is keyword or first char is special, such as #).
Cheers
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BUG1: When you are on your own profile page you are the owner (and admin) of your own forum. This gives you more rights than in other forums and one of those rights is the ability to always send a private email to a message regardless of the settings on that message. ie. This is by design, and works as you would expect on other forums.
BUG2: I've changed the behaviour of this when editing so that it is always unchecked when you edit. When posting with this checkbox selected I HTML encode the message then append your (always HTML enabled) signature. At this point the entire message + signature are now HTML safe and don't need this checkbox selected anymore.
More Info:
3. That's an odd one. Please let me know if you get it again. We're obviously not trapping something rare but important
Suggestions:
1. I've now done this and will upload the new code tomorrow
2. Hmmm. I'm not sure this would be universally loved.
3. I can't HTML encode everything because that would mean no HTML in messages (no bold, tables, superscript etc etc).
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thanks. I will check later, and provide feedback.
My third suggestion applies only to text that is selected when the "CODE BLOCK" or "INLINE CODE" buttons are pressed.
BTW: you moved the buttons up on the reply page, and widened the edit box, I like that.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: My third suggestion applies only to text that is selected when the "CODE BLOCK" or "INLINE CODE" buttons are pressed.
Ah - I see what you mean.
Only two issues with that:
1. If people paste code within PRE blocks then it won't catch them
2. If people want HTML in code (eg to highlight or make bold, or if they are pasting colourised text) then it makes this impossible.
Maybe there's a middle ground...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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In my last article I wanted to have this:
<a href="/KB/vista/VGFileDialogs.aspx"><code>IFileOpenDialog</code></a>
This resulted in two problems. One, the opening tags were munged, leaving just VGFileDialogs.aspx" (or something like that, I forget exactly how much of the text was left). Removing the <code> tag got me past that.
Two, the relative URL was being reduced to just "VGFileDialogs.aspx". I was thinking the JumpLists.aspx article might be moved to a different path if a Windows 7 section gets created, so using /kb/vista/VGFileDialogs.aspx would make the link still work if it ever moves. I did have the "I know what I'm doing, leave my HTML alone" checkbox checked.
--Mike--
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Sorry about this. This is due to our WYSIWYG editor trying to correct bad HTML while trying to dodge and weave around both Mozilla and IEs weirdnesses.
The quick fix is to have the CODE blocks outside the A tag. I'll mark it as a "Let's do better" item.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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This should now be fixed
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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See: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3033365/Small-bug-with-pins.aspx[^]
Its the same (small) bug but the steps are a bit different
Steps to reproduce:
Open a message (the normal way )
Pin the message
Unpin the message
Try opening the message again (the normal way )
(only tested in chrome at the moment if I have some more time I'll check IE and FF)
I know I know its a esoteric bug, but damned I want those bob stamps 
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It's the same in firefox.
It also changes the orange(ish) background in the thread view to white.
My failometer is detecting vast quantities of FAIL!
"Its SQL - hardly programming..." (Caslen)
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CP Team,
I just observed the new 'Pin' icon besides every message title in the forum. I have the following observations with reference to the same:
1) Can something be done to enhance the visual appearance of it? Currently, it is almost next to invisible unless I put on the cap of an owl with an ability of seeing pristine clear through the dark.
2) Once the message is 'Pinned', I feel the tooltip should show as 'Unpin' or a similar lexically correct word/Pin. But it still shows 'Pin'.
Also, a quick intro on this feature somewhere for the benefit of (new) users could help too.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep!
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: it is almost next to invisible
This is by design. I don't want it to be too distracting.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: Once the message is 'Pinned', I feel the tooltip should
I'll fix this
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: it still shows 'Pin'.
Yeah, it is correct though: it changes from the verb 'pin' to the noun 'pin' and back. 
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since a couple of weeks bookmarking articles does not work anymore for me.
When i click the bookmark link in an article nothing happens anymore.
Can anyone help me to fix this problem?
I would really appreciate if i could get this feature back.
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What isn't working? Bookmarking articles, or viewing bookmarked links to articles?
They are both working as far as I can tell.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thank you for the fast answere and
excuse me for my late response i used the nice weather
and took some days vacation.
But regarding my problem after pushing the bookmark link nothing happens
the article is not added to my bookmarks.
Before the "bookmark" link changes to "aticle bookmarked"
or somthing like that but that does not happens either.
Many thanks
Martin Trines
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Some muppet has posted an advert, here[^]
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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There is another similar advert in the same forum. These have been following a definite protocol -- a weird four digit number in the subject. (2385 and 2718 in the cases of reported messages).
Perhaps CP Team can try analysing the IPs of these message posted and consider imposing a ban on the traffic from that underworld.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep!
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Muppet dealt with. Thanks.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I logged in and tried to set my regular options from Konqueror, but the Forum View only lists four options,
Thread View
Expanded View
No javascript
No javascript no (something else)
I switched back to firefox on the windo'hs box and all the options appear.
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K might not (as of the last time checked) supported what was needed for some views. I know Opera used to have a limited subset of threading options because it wouldn't work with the FF/IE code and wasn't a large enough share of the traffic to justify that much custom coding.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains.
-- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
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The "Article Writing" forum needs a sticky message, Hans must be getting tired redirecting posters over here when they have problems with a specific article.
In fact, shouldn't ALL forums have a sticky? (a lot of them can be identical)
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Seeing that bad votes always appear to come in in pairs/triples/quadruples, I can't sometimes help but think that downvoters are not only trolls but authors with some behavioral issues who just register under another name in order promote their own work. The above suggestions looks to me like a viable alternative - after all, after a week, the heat should have cooled off, the "latest best picks" is not a topic anymore and a higher number of votes (on both competitors' articles) should reduce the impact as well. This sounds to me like a very simple solution to a very annoying issue that should not bother new members too much - what do you think?
As an alternative, I'd gladly accept an option not to appear in the latest best picks in the first place. Getting downvoted like it's happening right now somewhat sucks
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