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That would be an honour.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I found this post in the lounge[^] about privacity and anonimous voting. After reading the whole thread (it has some good messages) I answered with this message[^] that my suggestion as well.
What do you think about?
Greetings.
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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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The best solutions are usually the simplest solution. Your suggestion may provide a breakdown of votes from most unreliable to most reliable (though this is not guaranteed) but only by complicating the voting to the point where there's no easy way to compare two articles (or even the same article from one day to the next). If votes by a certain member level are unreliable then the solution is to remove those votes.
It's not this simple though: most votes are representative of readers opinions but there are cases where members are voted down spuriously by a very small number of members. Over time these votes are rendered insignificant, but the initial drop in a member's vote still causes a fair degree of consternation.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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i am a bronze member.
i am very active in the lounge.
i help people in the forums when i can. mostly asp.net
as of tonite in the asp.net forum i just solved a silver members gridview issue.
so a bronze member (me) contributed and helped a silver member.
so i dont like the idea of any segregations being made based on membership "ranking"
all the best 
jgasm
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Ranking is not set in stone and no single person is perfect. Every single person will need help at one time or might need another opinion. Overall a CP user may be slated as a silver or gold user, but they are only human. Ranking is only meant to give a general idea of who may be qualified enough to answer the question. Now, that is not to say the ranking system is perfect; Chris has been udapting it over the past few months, but it should be used as a guideline and not a rule. Keep in mind that everyone once started out as a Bronze member and worked their way up. In time you may even work your way up, and over that same time you may gain the respect of the CodeProjectian community.
Regards,
Thomas Stockwell
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i am not talking about the ranking system being bad. im responding to the original post about having forums be restricted by user rank.
how about you read before you go ranting off about the ranking system.
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I've just had a look at the BBC's new home page - I think something similar would look quite smart on CodeProject...
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Nice
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Would you consider a premium membership where users can choose to interact only with other premium members on the Lounge and SB? The CP staff decides on premium members. Considerations can be number of answers in programming forums, adherence to rules of the site, number of articles posted etc.
The premium users can also blacklist members, if they do not want to see any posts by that user. The blacklist has no other function other than this.
modified 29-Aug-18 21:01pm.
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Thomas George wrote: Considerations can be number of answers in programming forums, adherence to rules of the site, number of articles posted
Experts-Exchange has something similar called Expert-Premium where after getting 10000 points you earn a Premium Status and you can maintain it by earning 3000 points per month. There is a description here:
www.experts-exchange.com/help.jsp [^]
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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CP has filters that can be set to provide something similar. It could probably be improved, but keep in mind that CP has always been open to everyone, so anything that smacks of elitism will never be implemented here.
As far as blacklisting goes, even premium members are capable of acting like morons, (look at some of the flame wars in the Lounge), and I think blacklist wars could get really nasty.
But I agree with your sentiment about choosing who you want to interact with, and I suggest that you work it up as a proposal to Chris - maybe something like a whitelist that each member can set up for himself.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: maybe something like a whitelist that each member can set up for himself
Considering the number of registrations CP has currently and each member heavily uses this feature, resource utilisation should be carefully planned in this regard.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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The problem with a whitelist is that you're going to miss out on some interesting stuff. Keeping up with new and interesting members will be almost impossible.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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I personally agree with what you're saying. But compared to a blacklist, a whitelist is much better.
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Hans Dietrich wrote: As far as blacklisting goes, even premium members are capable of acting like morons, (look at some of the flame wars in the Lounge), and I think blacklist wars could get really nasty.
Hans Dietrich wrote: maybe something like a whitelist that each member can set up for himself.
Why not a blacklist that each member can set up for himself - of course, the drain on resources, either way, might justify Chris charging a $5.00 @ month premium for premium membership.
Jon
Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Instead of a blacklist or whitelist, how about just a filter.
Regards,
Thomas Stockwell
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Visit my homepage Oracle Studios
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While reporting a message (which also does an implicit one-voting), can it be extended to take a simple one line reason from the user. I believe currently, it takes a standard reason like 'UNSUITABLE in the forum'.
Even though it is a flag for administrator, it would be helpful if there is a quick one-line reason like 'ABUSIVE MESSAGE', 'DUMB THREAD', 'WRONG CATEGORY', 'TROLL'.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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We had "Abuse" and "Spam" but the general consensus (and one I agreed with) was that this was pointless so this was removed.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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We're currently allowed to retort an article multiple times. I can report an article from home, and then come in to work and report it again. Shouldn't we only be allowed to report it once?
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Reports for a single article are collated into a single report (with each report appended to the previous). Multiple reports aren't an issue - we investigate every report on it's own merit
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Ahh, okay. I can't remember all the ones I report, and I'd prefer not to do them twice. Is there a way to let us know if we've already reported an article?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: s there a way to let us know if we've already reported an article?
That would be useful.
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Might be an idea to have the voting integrated into the posting of a comment so you have to post a comment in order to vote - I don't see that "uncommented" votes really help anyone?
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Neither do comments of "asdf", which is typically what we would get.
I'm more and more leaning towards giving it a trial shot, though.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Neither do comments of "asdf",
Fair point - I had forgotten the depths of stupidity to which some of these muppets will descend...
modified on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 12:08 PM
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