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Hi All,
I'm curious with respect to authors who no longer support their submissions. There is no stone tossing here - for whatever reason. Adding to the problem is the inability to contact authors by email address through their profiles.
Would it be possible to place articles into 'Conservatorship' until the author reappears? This way ports, updates, and other bug fixes can be incorporated for everyone to enjoy? I feel the current policy of 'Do Nothing' could be improved upon.
For example, 2D Graph ActiveX Control[^]. It appears Bruno Voisin is doing his best to field questions and update the article. Reference Re: .def file ordinals[^]. In my case, Jordan Walters took intiative on A UTF-16 Class for Reading and Writing Unicode Files[^] so I made him a coauthor.
Proposed Solution:
The proposed solutions has three parts.
1) Have the CP editiors post the port, bug fix, or modified code in the download area of the article with an appropriate note
2) Make a note in the Revision History that a 'Conservatorship Action' was taken, giving credit to the individual who performed the port, modification, or bug fix
3) Have comments directed to the individual in the Article's comment area (in addition to the original author).
Finally, reward the individual. Perhaps offering something to improve the the contributor's standing, similar to the way 500 post increases 1 level.
Jeff
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Jeffrey Walton wrote: MIA
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:
MIA = Missing in action.
Anything I will say you will bring it down to whatever you want.
- Le Centriste
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This is an interesting idea. I can see two workarounds:- add a post to the article's forum - unless the changes are huge or very complex, I have seen this used very effectively (even by authors!) to communicate bug fixes and enhancements, in advance of the next update; and
- submit a new article, with a clear link back to the original article. And put a post on the original article's forum, linking to the new article.
Regarding your conservatorship idea, it would be a real mess if the original author suddenly popped up and said, "Whoa! What's all this crap? I want it deleted!" Then all your fixes would be wiped out.
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Hi Hans,
My humble opinion...
Hans Dietrich wrote: add a post to the article's forum
This can lead to omissions. For example, some of Michael Dunn's articles. There are literally pages of comments. I don't believe it is feasible to trace every thread of a comment.
Hans Dietrich wrote: Regarding your conservatorship idea, it would be a real mess if the original author suddenly popped up and said, "Whoa! What's all this crap? I want it deleted!" Then all your fixes would be wiped out.
This is a possibility. In the case of the Graph Chart, the author has not updated since 2003. Also, attempts to contact him have been in vain.
I believe adding the update (source files with bug fixes) and a Revision note is the least intrusive method (it is still intrusive). If the eauthor later shows and is hostile, delete the files and remove the note.
Also, when someone posts a fix ofsite, CodeProject traffic is lost. And this is how the CodeProject stays in business.
Again, I'm trying to reach a middle ground which benefits everyone. Obviously, it will probably be something which offends everyone involved.
Jeff
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Personally I would love to see the articles on CP become less proprietary and more like a wiki. (I think I hear Chris groaning.) The problem is one that you have experienced yourself - there are some immature people who visit the site, who would quickly make a mess of any kind of wiki.
Unless Chris has some solution, probably the best short-term answer is for you to just submit a new article - if you want ownership, then take it. I think I would first ask a CP editor to try to contact the author, but that's as much as you can reasonably do.
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Hi Chris,
I know you are aware the functionality. I wanted to reiterate so it does not fall off the radar screen.
Question: Is data avilable for past articles? That is, does CP retain indivdiual votes, or is a running total retained?
I'm interested to see how many univoters are out there. I think I've pissed someone off - I observe a dramatic drop in article rating early (reflecting a very low vote), which later levels off as others cast ballots.
Jeff
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This is definitely on the TODO list.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: This is definitely on the TODO list.
This is definitely the best excuse you could give us. 
Anything I will say you will bring it down to whatever you want.
- Le Centriste
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True. A picture is worth one thousand words.
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Jeffrey Walton wrote: I'm interested to see how many univoters are out there. I think I've pissed someone off - I observe a dramatic drop in article rating early (reflecting a very low vote), which later levels off as others cast ballots.
I think this is the worst someone could do to you. I mean they don't have the balls to piss you off like what you did to them, but they take it out on your articles. They are not professionals. You must ignore them. Just my thought 
Anything I will say you will bring it down to whatever you want.
- Le Centriste
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Hi Btahmma,
brahmma wrote: I mean they don't have the balls to piss you off like what you did to them, but they take it out on your articles.
Yes - some days I'd like to ask Chris to pass a message on stating, 'Please let me know what is so offending'.
brahmma wrote: You must ignore them.
That's all that I can do, which is frustrating. I'm much more proactive. Stop and do nothing is not in my circuitry...
Jeff
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Any idea of whether we should be able to change the message type after it has been posted.
Say for example, someone has posted a Joke in Lounge. After posting it, either the poster or admin can prefer changing it to Joke/Game for better visual display to other users.
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Hey Deepak,
Looks like you've decided to make the Suggestions forum your own. 2/3rds of the recent threads were started by you 
I am sure Chris is having warm glowing thoughts about you even as we speak 
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Have you tried?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Have you tried?
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What is this? CodeProject for Dummies?
Modify the post and then change the message type.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote: Modify the post and then change the message type.
True. It is for us. But also, I think, we can extend it based on Votes and Admin intervention too.
Pete O`Hanlon wrote: CodeProject for Dummies?
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How about a forum or at least a survey to get an idea of how many people are using XNA.
I havent noticed any articles using XNA but i guess there must be a few people using it.
Jon
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I see it now. Its not on any of the menu's though. Its also empty. I guess there aren't a lot of CP ers interested in games. I might write the first article for it. It might spark a bit of interest.
Jon
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It's under the Platforms and SDKs section.
I've just had a play about with the XNA SDK, so I can't say that I would provide anything of value for other developers but the forum does interest me. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to push my knowledge along in games development - too much to do, and far too little time to do it in.
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I was about to post the same thing about an XNA forum - good job i checked here first or people may have been throwing 1's at me
Dan
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Hi!
I recently started a project in DotNetNuke and found really hard to get help regarding DotNetNuke issues, the forums available on their site (dotnetnuke.com) seems not much helpfull as compared to CP, may be because they are moderated and i have to wait for long time to get answers of my questions. I was wondering if CP starts a new Message Board on DotNetNuke then it will be really helpfull...just a thought!
Regards,
Affan Ahmad Toor
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QUAIDIAN FOR ONCE, QUAIDIAN FOR EVER!
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