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Sorry Chris, I meant that 12+ thousand users at any given instant, not in a timespan, hope you understand 
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I understood
I'm just proud top have that many developers coming through our doors each month.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I would be to, especially if I got a penny for every one 
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extend beyond the right side of the browser window requiring scrolling.
It seems a *lot* of articles that are submitted initially have this problem. Why not use some css magic to ensure that this is never a problem in the first place?
"110%" - it's the new 70%
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If you know of a COM object that will automatically wrap code snippets then I'll buy you a ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) . In fact I'll buy you a slab. It needs to know how to wrap XML, VB.NET and C++ syntaxes.
We have a CSS rule in place to add scrollbars for wide PRE blocks which Mozilla handles nicely and IE just ignores.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: We have a CSS rule in place to add scrollbars for wide PRE blocks which Mozilla handles nicely and IE just ignores.
Probably not what you had in mind but have you considered setting the max width in the CSS pre tag? IE 6 then adds scroll bars when needed.
PRE
{
background-color: #FBEDBB;
padding: 7pt;
font: 9pt "Courier New", Courier, mono;
white-space: pre;
overflow:auto;
width:80%;
}
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Won't work. We need a fixed width sidebar for layout, so a proportional width on the RH portion of the page won't gel
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: We need a fixed width sidebar for layout, so a proportional width on the RH portion of the page won't gel
I’m going to pretend I understood what you said. I do see the auto collapse feature isn’t part of the pre tag, but adjusting its width, with the IE Web Dev toolbar and everything seems to work. The width CSS property can use relative or absolute values (px, cm or em) for setting the width.
Sorry if I’m being a pest, just trying to help out.
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so:
overflow-x:scroll is ignored?
Brad
Australian
- Me on "Public interest"
If you actually read this let me know.
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Bradml wrote: overflow-x:scroll is ignored
Just tried it and yup, IE could care less about it without specifying the width.
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A page that lists all the current running ads? I can't tell you the amount of times I have just seen something interesting whilst leaving a page and then spent the next 5-10 minutes refreshing in hopes that it comes back (twice).
Brad
Australian
- Bradml on "MVP Status"
If this was posted in a programming board please rate my answer
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So you are saying all your posts should be on a separate page?
[Sorry]
Brad
Australian
- Me on "Public interest"
If you actually read this let me know.
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There used to be a little "advertisers" graphic beside the top banner... doesn't look like it's there anymore.
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There is an area for MFC/C++ articles that are just free tools here[^]. The most popular code projet article of all time is in this area (Dan G's ToDoList). However, this area is in MFC / C++ section. It would be nice to have an equivalent in the C# or .NET section.
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We're actually going to be moving those articles out of the Tools sections into other sections more relevant.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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How about having a "Broken Thread" button for split/bad formatted posts? This way CP Protectors (I think those are the ones who handle that) can fix the thread.
Trinity: Neo... nobody has ever done this before.
Neo: That's why it's going to work.
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Only the admins can fix broken threads.
Instead of doing this, though, we're rewriting the system to stop this from happening.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Some thoughts in my head after watching the early responses to my "Custom ToolTips for MFC Projects" - pass on by if you're not in a mood for rambling discontent....
Among other things, it was fun and genuinely motivating while writing this article to "go for a five", and the first five reviewers agreed I'd done it, much to my delight. Then there was a four, which I can understand (you can't please everybody in every way all the time). Now someone just voted me a one and walked away without a word of comment.
Here's the thing: with six votes, the average score was about 4.85 - how many votes would I need to recover from that seventh "poor" vote (regardless of merit)? A total of 33 votes, with everyone from now on voting me a five out of five. More likely I'll be struck by lightning. I don't expect more than ten votes in the entire lifetime of this article.
Anonymous voting works well if you're reading, not so well if you're writing. If someone votes you down, you REALLY want to know why, since it wasn't a tossed-off Digg comment, it was a significant chunk of your life - and that doesn't happen nearly as often as it should.
About a hundred hours of work through four major drafts, code that's decently pretty and surprisingly simple in places, ideas that I thought people could build on... not that big an effort by CodeProject standards, but at least it's well enough done? Nope, apparently some think it's really just crap. Why? Don't know.
The argument has been made, quite earnestly, that CodeProject votes aren't terribly meaningful. This argument doesn't entirely convince. Can you honestly say you aren't influenced by the score before reading an article? My feeling is low-rated articles often aren't even opened from search results.
So in the end, sadder but a little wiser maybe, I'd be happy to tackle a fourth article for CodeProject if I could ask for the voting buttons to be entirely removed. For feedback, comments and a popularity rating are more than good enough. I'm "voting" for that no-vote option here, wondering if anyone else agrees that purely destructive anonymous criticism should not be played up as a side-effect of easy judgement?
[end of rambling discontent]
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I certainly understand how you feel - early low votes are discouraging, and makes you question if its worth the effort. Personally, I have decided that it is worth the effort. And as annoying as a vote-with-no-comment can be, over time it won't matter - see my response here to someone else who feels like you do. Also, I believe that the article rating does help in determining its usefulness - again, over time.
I do not write for the 1-voters on CP - I write for myself, and other people who are trying to make CP better.
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If I had your Azimov-category output, I'd probably have your attitude too Still, thanks for the pep talk, it helped a bit.
I can only write one or two articles per year and so they mean more to me than they probably should. The last article I wrote was fairly rated, hence false expectations. Still, five fives, a four, and a ONE? Feels like "Great, great, great, great, great, nice, B****R OFF YOU MORON..." to tell the truth. Talk about whiplash. Ali's article that you mentioned is in much the same state.
Oh well, by June I'll feel better. Needless to say, I won't be going into politics.
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I visited that link, and I liked the article - gave it a 5.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I think there are only two things I can say of value here:
1. Over time the rating of an article levels out to a reasonably good approximation of its value. Please be patient. I know it sucks sometimes though.
2. Not all votes are equal. Votes from Silver, Gold and Platinum members all count for more (in increasing order) than those from other members. A 1 vote from a drive-by will quickly be repaired by a 4 or 5 from a solid member.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Thanks Chris, didn't know the votes were weighted. That does help. A little bit
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Unless you manage to piss of a whole range of people elsewhere on the site.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Don't be fooled by rating. The amount of e-mail feedback I get from 4.0 (or even 3.9) articles (I have 2 such) tells me that people can read & think.
Your article will find it's reader regardless of the rating.
Right now I have 4 articles being written, and it is interesting to me to meet the challenges of programming and describing the whole thing in the article, not the rating I'll get
P.S. The most successful article here - ToDoList - has a rating of 4.75. Not 5, not 4.9...
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