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modified 23-Mar-19 4:29am.
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Nothing to do with the spam wave - this bug has been present since at least November:
Incorrect message count on profile[^]
Chris said it was a caching issue, kicked the cache, and marked the bug as fixed. Unfortunately, the fix didn't last.
OG reported it again in January:
Odd message count[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Guess I should have done a search for it before posting it.
But I was a bit busy clobbering the spammers...
Richard Deeming wrote: Chris said it was a caching issue, kicked the cache, and marked the bug as fixed. Unfortunately, the fix didn't last.
I guess Chris will kick it a bit harder soon enough.
It's not a high priority bug, just figured I'd let the hamster masters know
Tom
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1)
This is an english site and the spammers are spamming in oriental language, other spam waves in the past were slavic languages...
When there is a huge rise in the reporting actions (the S&A group start working) or any other kind of trigger point...
could it be possible to block / send to moderation all what it is written using special chars (non roman alphabet) and not being posted in the "Non English language" forums?
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2)
Another idea... a protectors only button for "spam wave" (in S&A Forum?) so that if a number X of protectors click there all messages of users created in the last X days (e.g. 3 days) go directly to moderation
#1 and #2 would give a bit of advantage since in the moderation queue is a couple of clicks and all items of the current list are out instead of 5 clicks per item
and we have everything centralized in a place, instead of having to hunt for them
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3a)
Today's first spammer was Nr. 14188734 and the latest one (by the time of this edit... they are still generating more) was Nr. 14189523 14189641 This means, the spammers have generated almost 1000 users in the last hours.
Would it be possible to put a limit of user generation coming from / by XXXX (whatever that is) per hour? I know this one is a bit tricky / difficult, since the spammers are probably using different IPs when generating users.
3b)
If CP detects an high rate of users generation (I don't know how many users per time unit will be created in usual times when spammers are not active), but (combining with #2) if the "spam wave" status is active, somehow limit the users generation and give a message for possible true users like "we are under a spam attack and the user generation is temporarily under restrictions, please try again later"
That would show the spammers, it is not worth to make such a try
That would show normal users, we take the protection of the site seriously and should not make a big deal to wait for a while until the situation goes back to normal. And if a user gets mad for it the wait... (remember one can read the site as a guest without user generation, login) then... screw him (most probably is going to be a "Gimme code ASAP, is URGENTZZ" user)
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4)
After such a massive user generation, spam wave coming from users that close to each other. A CP-Email asking for a user confirmation to all "still alive" users of that spam wave user range, if no confirmation in X time... user deletion.
this won't help against the spam wave, but at least will clean the mess up a bit
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A protector only button per forum to clean up ALL the "message closed" or "message automatically closed" or similar in that forum? This could help to keep the load reduced to only the active spam, making it easier and not so nasty to navigate the pages to report by the normal users. Right now, it is only possible with a staff's big hammer or you have to navigate between hundreds of those "closed" messages or delete them one by one as a protector (with the problem that after 1 deletion you get redirected to the first page of the forum and have to click back to that page to continue where you were)
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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modified 20-Mar-19 11:07am.
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Good ideas. On the other hand how many time such a thing happens. But of course you are right, it is a good idea to have better tools against future attacks.
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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It seems General Indian Topics link is broken
General Indian Topics Discussion Boards
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The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence
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or maybe a spammer posted lot of spam in that topic
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The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence
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A LOT of posts in what appears to be chinese.
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
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It seems that messages now replaced with "Message closed"
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The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence
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Yes because they have all been voted as spam. If you know someone with the required privileges (e.g MVP, Protector etc. e.g. @thatraja) who regularly uses that forum, you could ask them to delete the messages to clean it up.
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Looks like only our admins have power to destroy "Message closed" threads.
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I can do it, and as you and I are both Protectors I assumed we would have the same privileges. If they are still there tomorrow I may have a go at clearing them out - for a fee .
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You right. I missed Delete button(at first) which comes only at mouse over thread. I'll clear both forums right now. Thank you
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How are you doing ThatRaja? Came here after a long time and don't see the Indian Topics group. Is it discontinued?
..Go Green..
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I'm OK Ankur! Yeah, CP closed few forums(Chinese, Indian & Soapbox) last year. Unfortunately we can't have similar forum(GIT) anywhere again ever. It was good time.
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Sorry for a very late reply. I was away from CP for quite long.
Yeah you are right! And I think that broke the links on your signature too.
..Go Green..
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Ankurm/ wrote: Sorry for a very late reply. I was away from CP for quite long. So am I
Ankurm/ wrote: And I think that broke the links on your signature too. That was intentional. But later I'm going update with actual links, lets see.
Be safe man! We'll chat again in FB later.
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... or at least higher in the tab order?
When you click Delete on a Closed message, and the delete confirmation appears:
The "Confirm" button is generally miles away from the mouse pointer. If it was easy to TAB to it, we could use ENTER to confirm, and then the mouse stays pretty close to the next target when there is a run of 'em.
Just trying to reduce our collective RSI on days like this...
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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With the recent Chinese spam attack it was very hard to work out which messages and users I had flagged as spam so I looked at he Reputation Points Earned list. This was most unhelpful as member ID's were not visible. Moreover even if I flagged a message as spam I could find no record of the vote. Some votes appeared but after some point in time nothing happened. Thereupon I gave up.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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The appear only when they give reputation, that means once you get to the max clicks on a category i.e. 25 reports, the rest don't get tracked in your history).
Anyways... in this case with this attack... it is not going to help much... just click where you can, it already helps a lot.
I have just gone 6 pages of messages navigating with "CTRL + Arrow". So I could leave the mouse in the area of the red flag and report without much movements. Then the opening all the users of the page as I navigate it in other tabs (click the link with the wheel of the mouse), finish the page, and report all opened users clicking with the mouse and ctrl+f4 to close the tab. Then changing page of the forum.
Is the fastest way I could find out.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 20-Mar-19 8:40am.
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Thanks. I've learned something.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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