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I disagree. Google it and you'll get this[^].
In some research papers, I have seen that there is no comma before etc. When is a comma used before etc.? A comma is used before etc. when it follows more than one listed item, for example, rivers, lakes, streams, etc. (comma used) but rivers etc. (no comma used). I've been taught this rule since grade school.
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From that website :"Philadelphia, USA • Mumbai, India • Tokyo, Japan"
The defence rests, none of them speak English, merely some bastardized representation of it.
The Clue is in the Name.
You should learn English as she is spoke.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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She isn't here.
A, B, C, D, E.
A, B, C, etc.
Etc. implies all the rest, but actually stands for the things that are missing. Etc. = "D, E.".
What it's called and what it stands for are two separate things.
The Oxford Comma - standard US English usage is to put a comma before the and in lists of items, e.g. red, white, and blue; standard British English usage, however, is to leave it out, e.g: red, white and blue. More subtly "etc." (et cetera, i.e. and so on) should have a comma before it in US English; it shouldn't in British English but it is considered bad style to use abbreviations or latin terms so if you ever see etc. you should encourage the authors to try to rephrase things in a simpler and clearer way.
According to this, you shouldn't be using etc. Hope she forgives you.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: British English
See, there is your problem.
There is no such thing as British English.
There is English.
There is American English.
There is Australian English.
And so on.
English is the Only language that counts, and what other people do to it is criminal!
To say that in US English something is right is like saying driving on the right is right.
Do it in England and there will be trouble!
English comes from England and therefore the only people who speak it are English, so what we say goes!
The final arbiter is the OED.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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English is British English which is the Queen's English.
American or US English proves me right (which is where I am).
Australian English seems to be similar to British English.
But it all depends on the author. In this case, I'm invoking "creative license".
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But there is no such thing as British English.
Which part of that are you having trouble with?
The Us probably call it that because they can't call it English because that would mean they are speaking anything other than English.
(Which they are)
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Dalek Dave wrote: But there is no such thing as British English.
A name by any other name is still a name.
Dalek Dave wrote: Which part of that are you having trouble with?
None. But we can call it whatever we want. Creative license.
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spoke?
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Irony[^]
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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I said always, which isn't obviously true. However, I tend to use i.e. (not a fan of e.g.) when giving only one example.
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I think I've nailed this issue, though we're juggling 2 versions of IIS so more testing will be needed. Today hopefully.
[Edit] half nailed. IIS6 is annoying. With a capital A.
Dan Neely wrote: When did you add the code to put CP article names into the display text when pasting a URL?
Last year sometime. 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
modified on Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:58 PM
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Hi I really like the Chinese forum, but an hour after I've visited it, I feel like I have to visit again 
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Oh behave! 
(And a 5!)
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Today I got astonished, when I was not able to find ASP.NET forum in one go in Programming Discussion section. Later I looked bit and found that now it is grouped under Web Develoment.
Then again, I found one more Web Develoment under Web Develoment, looked bit confusing as we already had a separate forum Web Develoment.
I think we should make it little clear..
Wat say?
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... Silverlight is not WPF. WCF is not WPF. I will remove the WPF content from the WCF forum and put it in the Silverlight/WPF forum.
Now, write that down 100 times.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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Clearly WCF, WPF, WF are different but they were lumped under the same forum at the beginning because, well, probably because they were all new, all little known, and all had a WTF acronym. Clearly it stime they all agreed to just be friends and move on.
I know WPF and Silverlight are not the same - but they share a pedigree, and Silverlight did used to be called WPF/E, so I figured with the traffic they get combining makes sense.
Would splitting WPF/Silverlight be more valuable given that the split fora will get less traffic and I'd porbably remove one from the dropdown menu?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I think they should all be separated. In fact, I think that someone who wants to post a question should be made to go through a wizard (like article submissions) that asks them to idientify the question category via the careful selection of a few checkboxes, and then allows them to post the question, after which, it is applied to the appropriate section of the web site.
I have an idea on how to implement it, but it would take too long to describe it in detail in a message. Painting with broad strokes, the wizard would be a cascading series of actions or placeholders that are made visible depending on what was selected in the previous panel. The user would ultimately be permitted to actualy enter a message, and that message would be placed according to how he progressed through the wiard. That would ensure that the question was posted in the most approrpiate place on the site. This would only apply to programming forums and quick answers.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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The wizard idea is something we've talked about for QA. However, if it's all simple enough then a single page with a simple form should be good enough as long as we have sufficient checks in place.
An option for the forums that I started work on then abandoned in favour of QA was to have forum messages tagged as they are in Quick Answers. There would only be a single forum, but with each message taqged you could create partitions or views where you only see the topics you are interested in.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Would splitting WPF/Silverlight be more valuable given that the split fora
I'd prefer a split but not because of the traffic - just because they are separate technologies.
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You misunderstand me Chris. I'm talking about moving the WPF content into the said forum. Currently the Silverlight/WPF forum only contains Silverlight questions - the WPF/*?* forum was merely renamed and contains the actual WPF content. It's going to make searching for answers problematic for users.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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Ah, yes. You noticed that particular largish pachyderm in the room.
Let me get coffee. Never let me near the database for custom work without coffee.
(and yes, I know Brycey would say "that sentence has 5 superfluous words at the end")
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: I know Brycey would say "that sentence has 5 superfluous words at the end")
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx
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green menu Articles/Chapters and Sections/C#, after churning away some 10 seconds, presents a long list (a count would be nice!) of articles sorted by Score, with a header line suggesting it is sortable also by title, update date, and author. Alas it isn't.
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