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All fixed.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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on Questions & Answers page. Screenshot[^]
BTW it's my first bugs/suggestion post in 2011
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In same page
Screenshot[^]
BTW my Browser is Firefox 3.6.13.
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in Tip/Tricks page alternate section.
Screenshots - shot A[^] & shot B[^]
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Try now
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Some people downvote helpful postings. They seem to expect fully debugged solutions, ready for deployment, to their problems - as in free money.
It would be nice if downvoting required an explanation – and a way to rate that too. Possibly disallowing “interested parties” from taking part in that rating procedure
Kind regsrds
Espen Harlinn
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Sadly there's a large contingent that seem to think that we are here to do their work for them.
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Message down-voting is a fact of life here. Some of us have suggested a complete revamp of the voting system, but as you might imagine, any change in the system might be a bit of a problem as far as adjusting past voting records, and the possibility of completely hosing things as a result up is quite obvious.
Many times, people will 1-vote your answer if it doesn't fix their specific problem, or as you cited, if the solution you provide doesn't contain actual code. There's nothing you can do about it other than edit your answer to ask why they voted it a 1 and hope they are convinced to come back and change their vote, or that someone else comes along and up-votes your response in a move to counteract the 1-vote. In a bizarre twist, sometimes they mark your answer as *the* answer, and then proceed to vote it a 1. Where's the logic in that?
All you can do is accept it and move along.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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I guess you are right, but requiring a "justification" for downvoting could provide us with some humorous reading material. It’s just a thought …
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More likely, it will just contain crap like "asdssf"
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And there's nothing humorous about that... :/
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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That could be countered by creating a new type of member distinction "Most Crappy Person"
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Tips/Tricks problem, see T102 in my CP bug tracking (link in sig).
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There now is a third alternative to John's tip; it is by another author and now it does show on the home page. Weird.
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Tips/Tricks problem, see T101 in my CP bug tracking (link in sig).
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A Tip / Trick should be a short, self contained tip on how to do something - basically a "here's how to do something". If the author has multiple ways of achieving a solution they should all be presented in the same tip, and my initial thought was to not actually allowing the author to provide an alternate at all - only allow others the ability to provide alternates
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hi Chris,
I think you misread.
yes I understand you want the author of the original to put all his info into the original, and I agree.
My point was (and the example illustrates it) that I may have two valid alternatives that both are better than the original. Your current set-up tries to prevent me from entering two alternatives; I did manage through a little detour anyhow.
So the double point in T101 is:
(1) I think you should allow more than one alternative from an author (different from the original author); however the "post alternate" facility is missing as soon as I have entered an alternative. I don't think you should force an alternate author to shove all his alternatives in a single alternate, they may be unrelated, or have different merits.
(2) and your attempt to prevent me of adding another one is failing (some fiddling with back and forth buttons gave me the button once again).
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The UI was designed with the intent that a person would only post a single post in one sitting. A far easier way to post two is just to refresh the page and the button will reappear.
We can certainly open things up if that's what makes sense, but for now it seems, to me, to be a rare and unusual case that can be attended after other more pressing issues are fixed.
Luc Pattyn wrote: yes I understand you want the author of the original to put all his info into the original, and I agree.
My point was (and the example illustrates it) that I may have two valid alternatives that both are better than the original.
Wouldn't it be better then simply to change the "Add Alternate" button for authors so that it appears as "Update / Add to my tip"?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: just to refresh the page and the button will reappear.
OK, so why not put a little text that says so, exactly where you removed the button? that would be more user friendly. Now it looks like you want to prevent a second alternative by the same author, but you now explaining how it can be done shows you don't really want to prevent it. It is a confusing message you send.
Chris Maunder wrote: Wouldn't it be better then ...
I don't think so. I gave two alternatives, they both are better than the original, and they are independent, i.e. not related to each other. So they deserve separate boxes, separate facilities for commenting, voting, bookmarking, and mentioning on the home page. They could have come from different people altogether.
IMO it would not be correct to force people to put all their ideas on the subject into a single box. Why do you want to enforce too much structure to things that don't improve by overstructuring them?
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He meant that multiple alternates from the same person. In the example cited above, I posted a tip, and Luc posted multiple alternates. I agree though, I think I would only have posted one alternate.
There really doesn't need to be a feature that lets the tip author post an "Update to my Tip/Trick". We already have "Improve tip/trick".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Shouldn't we get participant points for voting in the article competitions? The reason I ask is because there's nothing in the FAQ about it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Correct
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Wow. Rodents.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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