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Sorry mate, but Brainfuck is a well established example of a Turing complete language that does exactly what it says on the tin.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Brainfuck is a well established example of a Turing complete language
I had no idea that brainfuck was so well established.
Just along for the ride.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011) "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
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I agree with Slacker007 about the title being offensive. I understand that no offense was intended but spelling it as "Brainf***" would solve the problem, I think, and set a good example for future articles.
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Hi Today,
I've already posted here about getting auto-notifies based on comments on QA forums, and I know this is on CP's list-to-be-fixed: this message is not about that.
Today I received two CP notifications of a kind I have not seen before: both were evidently auto-generated by responses to a Tip/Trick I posted yesterday.
One was from a spammer promoting some form of Chinese mushroom medicine: that one did appear as a comment on the Tip/Trick: and, of course, I reported it as abuse.
The other notification, from the very gifted and prolific CP contributor, Naerling, contained content that did not appear as a comment on the Tip/Trick, but contains some technical points I will respond to. The header of the message from N. is appended below minus my e-mail address.
What I find strange is these notifications instruct one to reply by e-mail to a CP url, of the form: (I've removed the identifying numbers):
URL : http: So I have two questions:
1. why, with global profile private e-mail not allowed, and all notifications set to 'off, and never enabling them on any message, am I receiving these notifications on a Tip/Trick ?
2. in the second case, from Naerling; why didn't his comments appear as a comment on the Tip/Trick ?
I'm not really feeling 'hassled' by these notifications, but am curious how they are happening.
thanks, Bill
CodeProject Forums forums@notifications.codeproject.com
to BillWoodruff
date Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 03:13
subject CodeProject | Few questions...
mailed-by notifications.codeproject.com
Important mainly because it was sent directly to you.
hide details 03:13 (13 hours ago)
A new message has been posted at [Article]: avoid redundant calling of container events when adding controls at run-time.
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." Bjarne Stroustrop circa 1990
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thatraja wrote: Gone.
thatraja wrote: BTW Use this forum[^] for these kind of things.
Thanks for sharing.
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On this occasion, having a note here is worth-while as this needs a clean-up crew to remove the trash.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I'd personally like to have the chance to know what changes were made in an edit: that gives me a chance to both understand the changes, perhaps benefit in terms of future writing for CP ... or reverse the changes, if I think appropriate.
By the way, I set the edit permission on a tip/trick sent in yesterday, to 'Admin Only,' and today I find it reset to 'Silver Members.' What would cause that ?
thanks, Bill
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." Bjarne Stroustrop circa 1990
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I share your opinion here, actually the current state tends to keep me away of those parts of CP; CP staff will tell you you can see older versions and even compare two versions, I just hate it to get an e-mail that makes me waste several minutes to find out one of the editors has put CODE tags around one or two class names in some sentence.
And I have seen the edit restrictions getting looser too, don't know what exactly triggers it. I make sure I check them each and every time I edit one of my items, if and when I do edit something of mine. And I refuse to edit someone else's stuff.
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When do you get your edit points for editing your own articles?
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager
If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
If the final destination is death, then we should enjoy every second of the journey.
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You have to send away for them, wait 21 days and complain in triplicate.
Actually, you should get them immediately.
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Nope, lost in the post I think (19 days to go).
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager
If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
If the final destination is death, then we should enjoy every second of the journey.
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Once you get enough editor points, you can trade them in on a weenie whistle.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Immediately if the edit was major (and not simply minor)
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I edited my RaptorDB article on the 13th November and nothing happened.
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager
If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
If the final destination is death, then we should enjoy every second of the journey.
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Reputation Type/Event Description Points Max events per day Max events total Points Needed
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Edit Article A member receives points for editing an article - changing at least 10% of the content. 5 25 ∞ 500
Edit Question/Answer A member receives points for editing a question (under Quick Answers). 2 50 ∞ 500
Edit Technical Blog A member receives points for editing a Technical Blog Article - changing at least 10% of the content. 2 25 ∞ 500
Edit Tip/Trick A member receives points for editing a tip/trick - changing at least 10% of the content. 2 25 ∞ 500
Edit video article A member receives points for editing a video article 5 25 ∞ 500 I think, for points it needs a major edit.
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I have released updates and edited at least 10 times since the original article, still nothing?
Its the man, not the machine - Chuck Yeager
If at first you don't succeed... get a better publicist
If the final destination is death, then we should enjoy every second of the journey.
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Win 7 64, Chrome Canary latest version. Will check in IE9 and add a report to this message if I observe a difference.
While at editing time indent and outdent have effects on plain text (not bracketed as code, quote, etc.), in the resulting posted message: the appearance of any "offset" is gone.
Pasting in tabs "works" visually, in edit mode, but also does not result in tabulated results in the final message. Using 'untab' on pasted in text to convert tabs to spaces also results in no visual result in the rendered, final, message.
And, of course, use of "raw" leading spaces on any line in edit mode: those appear to be auto-trimmed.
... IE 9 test of indent ... three indents applied ...
Nope, same result in IE9.
best, Bill
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." Bjarne Stroustrop circa 1990
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why would you want indent and outdent for plain text?
Just along for the ride.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011) "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
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Slacker007 wrote: why would you want indent and outdent for plain text? To offset a list of words appropriately when inserted as examples following some statement terminated by a colon. Kind of like the way bulleted lists are used (however, I am not asking for bulleted lists [I don't like them]).
I am also asking based on the assumption that usually what works in the editor effectively ... as indent and outdent do ... will show up in the final formatted message. aka: WYSIWYG
best, Bill
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." Bjarne Stroustrop circa 1990
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Not sure what brought this on, unless I completely misunderstood.
Outside PRE and CODE tags, HTML tends to eat all spaces (and tabs) except one, always has, always will. I've never seen a browser handling that any different. That is one reason why I suggest to put tabular data (and not just code) inside PRE tags (the non-prop font being another reason).
[ADDED] The non-breaking spaces ( ) don't get aggregated, one could use them to tabulate/indent some text also, however I still recommend PRE tags! [/ADDED]
modified 14-Nov-11 9:37am.
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Thanks for the advice, Luc; I was operating as if there was a WYSIWYG relation between functionality in the editor, and the final formatted message, but that there isn't ... quite, in some cases ... in no way rocks my boat.
I regularly use a forum (non-technical) where pasted in tabs work, and leading spaces work in the sense of: if they appear in the editor, they appear in the final message. Of course it's unfair to compare that editor's limited functionality with the range of options the CP editor must support !
I will adjust my expectations, and try out pre tags as you suggest in those rare cases I want to indent some plain-text.
best, Bill
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." Bjarne Stroustrop circa 1990
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You're welcome.
I forgot to mention there is one exception in the CP editor: it does preserve paragraphs, so us entering a newline gets translated in whatever it takes to get a new paragraph in HTML.
BTW: IMO not treating spaces/tabs any special by CP is OK as it supports a fluid behavior, where paragraphs format themselves depending on the width of your browser window (except inside PRE tags).
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The reason is that when you post a message you are actually posting in HTML, not plain text, and in HTML multiple spaces are collapsed down to a single space.
You can always try checking the box "Treat my content as plain text, not as HTML" which will then format as plain text and preserve spaces and indenting.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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