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Yep - just cleaning up data for the updated taxonomy. Almost there...
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Chris Maunder
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I follow your site since a decade or more and noticed that the latest update is broken frequently in the last time. Thank god the normal search works always . I use the latest update on a regular base to see which new articles where posted.
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Klaus
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Latest update is broken again. This time the sorting by date is broken. For example:
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Klaus
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I've stared and stared at this. Which bit is broken?
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Chris Maunder
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As you can see the list isn't sorted by date anymore (below screenshot is from this morning (in germany )).
And to be sure we are talking about the same thing, i'm using this page:
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Klaus
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The Lounge
Ctrl-Right arrowing through it is causing some cases where a message closes without opening the next one and several message headers end up highlighted by the end.
Win10, Chrome 89.0.4389.90 x64 and Firefox 87.0.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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While I was deploying the fix to the hanging tag the script were in a messy state for a few mins. All good now
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Chris Maunder
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In the article texts the formatting was changed, words were removed, spaces between the words were removed.
=> Problem was solved. Thank you.
modified 31-Mar-21 2:45am.
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Our apologies. Clearly something is wrong with the article editor. We'll get it sorted.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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We're fixing this as we speak
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Chris Maunder
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Probably another symptom of this post[^].
Take a look at this article[^]. The fun starts at the first bullet. When I revised it and printed a .pdf only two days ago, it was all good.
EDIT: Now I see OG's post below[^], which must also be related to this.
modified 30-Mar-21 6:41am.
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Have a look at my answer to this: Why I am not getting any output?[^]
In edit mode, it ends with this:
But I'll give you a hint: when do you reset <code>i</code>?
But it displays as this:
But I'll give you a hint: when do you reset i ?
Oh good, it happens here as well ... and yes, Markdown is off as this image shows:
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Yep - both the <code> and <pre> formatting seems to be messed up in the latest update.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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No, missing ">". Our end, my fault, all fixed.
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Chris Maunder
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What I'm thinking is a list visible to those who can see the "messages" and "QA" moderation queues, to which we can add and remove the "dodgy ones": probable spam setup, spam testers, and such like.
It doesn't stop anyone posting, but it alerts us when they change it, post something new, or get a reply.
We probably all have mental watch list, but I for one am having difficulty remembering what I had for supper last night, so 20 or so "Member 15nnnnnn"s is way beyond my meager capacity. Yes, yes - I can write it down, or have a spreadsheet - but a common list we can all reference would be so much more usable!
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Can you paint a bit of a picture of what you're thinking?
You can currently Watch any member, section, forum, article etc you wish, and then go to your Items You Follow list (or just check the homepage) to view what's happening.
Do you mean a list where members manually add/remove items? The moderation list is all those items marked "In Moderation" so if you want to add items to that then we need to give you an easier way to relabel stuff
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Chris Maunder
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No, not adding posts to moderation - we can easily enough raise existing messages in S&A.
I'm thinking we get members (One to keep an eye on... (ΧΡΥΣΟΥΛΑ ΠΑΠΑΒΑΣΙΛΕΙΟΥ)[^] for example) where what they have posted isn't spam ... but it stinks of "future spam".
At the moment, they go in S&A like Richard did with this one.
But ... they get scrolled off pretty quickly - a lot of spammers to help with that - so it's easy to forget them. Plus, my spreadsheet list isn't anything Richard could check if Mr RussianName posts more of the same on Friday.
It'd be nice to have a list (and maybe a user flag option for those with permission) to say "watch this one" and have that be shared with all moderators. And if a new post or a reply gets posted, an alert to remind us to check and either de-watch or escalate the member would help.
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I am not sure if this is going in a good direction. For me it is - at first glance - on public defamation. Sorry, but things seems to go wrong. It seems that the volunteers are getting a little too extreme here.
modified 24-Apr-21 21:01pm.
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Why?
First off, it isn't public - it's restricted to "trusted members" who make spam / not spam decisions already.
Secondly, it's an extension of things we do informally already - we all have a list of untrusted members that we keep an eye on as we suspect they are up to no good but haven't done anything yet. At present we share that fairly publicly, so if anything this would be less public than existing methods.
Thirdly, this doesn't stop people posting unless they do start to misbehave. And then we can shut them down even faster which is good for us moderators, good for the site, and good for non-spammer members. Spammers are fair game for the ban hammer anyway!
In what way are we getting too extreme? At a guess it's because you are currently in moderation for everything - but that's not a volunteer function, it's that the automated system doesn't trust you because your first posts looked possibly spammy and it routed you to moderation to check. That's where volunteers come in, and I remember letting your posts through. It happens - and it learns, so it will "release you" fairly soon. Not posting links would help, even if they are only to YouTube music vids...
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Quote: First off, it isn't public - it's restricted to "trusted members"
Sorry, but that makes it much more suspicious... I remember times...
Yes, sure I see also the fight here against spammers and you are doing a great job! But nevertheless a counterweight won't harm anyone;)
Quote: That's where volunteers come in, and I remember letting your posts through Thank you;) Well, I also take the right that my posts were neither spam nor abusive. Ok, sometimes very (too) direct... sorry for that
modified 24-Apr-21 21:01pm.
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Quote: Sorry, but that makes it much more suspicious. I don't think so. The alternative is to let it through and kill it as soon as possible after, and we tried that.
The result is called a spam flood and it very quickly becomes the only thing anyone can see on a site, particularly when the spambots locate a vulnerable site.
Public moderation of spam and / or abuse is in fact doing exactly what the spammer / abuser wants - making their cr@p public. Private moderation is the norm, and in fact the only way you can have an "open" site in modern times with more than four or five viewers ...
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Ok ok, I don't like to waste your time. In my experience here, I trust you so far more or less (more than less). But sorry there are other so called 'protectors' I would ... @@redacted@@
modified 24-Apr-21 21:01pm.
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First of all... I am writing this on my own perception / experience with the site and my own protector status.
Protector status is like the MVPs it is a temporary status that can end in several ways:
- After a certain inactivity of a protector
- Dropping the status voluntarily
- Status revoked by the admins due to many possible situations
So... if you think some of us protectors are not being moderated or "abusing the badge" just give a message to the admins. Explain why you think that and give a couple of links / concrete examples.
I bet that @Chris-Maunder or @Sean-Ewington would take a close look to check your statements and if you are right, I suppose that that protector / those protectors would get the status revoked pretty fast.
And if I am one of the "so called protectors" you say, I would like to ask you what I have done that you don't agree, so I can explain myself or even apologize if it was a mistake.
At the end we all are normal people that can have errors or misunderstand a concrete context (or lack of it) due to "chat / forum environment" and missing non-written information.
M.D.V.
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I'm afraid he is no longer with us - I know not why, I see no reports in S&A for his ID.
He may have departed of his own free will.
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maybe a sucket puppet that acomplish his target of blaming on protectors?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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