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I've moved it into the Hardware review section
cheers
Chris Maunder
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What help would you like?
The voting system is designed to allow people (multiple) to provide feedback on your contributions. As far as I can tell, and with all due respect, the system is working.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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If the same person is down-voting, then action needs to be taken against the spammer.
Update: Please see Midi_Mick's comment in the same thread.
modified 6-Jan-16 1:39am.
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a) It's not the same person
b) What action should I take if it were? People are allowed to have their view and 3 votes isn't abuse. Not allowing someone to say "I don't agree with this" is not nice.
I get that it's disappointing, and I get that there are spurious votes, but we've put a lot of work into making the system resilient to (potentially) poor votes and the benefits of free expression absolutely outweigh the slings and arrows of a downvote.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Let me tell you its more than 3.
I just put three links in here.
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I think Chris is suggesting that it's within the expected confines of his voting system for someone to go through a member's posts/answers and down vote those that he/she feels to be sub-par (which is always a subjective thing). There's no way around it really. I guess the trick is to only respond when you are absolutely sure of your answer. Or if someone responds with a better one, delete yours before someone can down vote it.
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Mass down-voting of a single user's answers is not "spamming". Please stop mis-using that word.
If a single user is and down-voting everything you post, you might be able to argue that it's abusive behaviour. However, it could also be argued that it's a perfectly valid use of the voting system, where users get to express their opinion of the content you've posted, whether or not you agree with that opinion.
If you had picked up a serial down-voting stalker, I'd expect to see a lot more down-voting activity than five votes in three days!
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: whether or not you agree with that opinion
Well I don't.
While there is nothing wrong with the voting system, I don't believe a 'platinum' member should down-vote without providing a reason.
Its quite ridiculous.
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And yet, when we were required to provide reasons for down-votes, we ended up with very few people down-voting, even for exceptionally poor content. Chris explained the problem[^] last February.
There's no perfect solution. If you allow comment-less down-votes, then you don't get any feedback as to why your content has been down-voted. But if you require comments, you discourage members from down-voting poor content, in case the author decides to start a down-voting war.
If you suspect someone is abusing the voting system, then raise it with the hamsters. They're the only people who can see who is down-voting your content.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I'd like to say: each of you is right.
We all know that perfect voting system doesn't exist!
I think that Abhinav can live with all those downvotes, but he's probably wonder why someone downvoted his answer. When the downvote comes from platinum member and that member doesn't wrote a bit of explanation, it hurts.
We should respect few simple rules. The most important (in this aspect) is: write the reason of downvote to give a chance for person who posted an answer to improve it.
Cheers,
Maciej
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It still can be frustrating, but I noticed, that expect one of the answers it is about more than one person who down-voted you...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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It may just be a valid reaction against perceived rep-hunting.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I agree. I supplied one of the downvoted answers mentioned above, at the same time as another answer was provided. The other answer in the questioin was also downvoted at the same time. The issue I have is that it appears that the person providing the 3rd answer just downvoted the other two. My answer said EXACTLY the same thing as the 3rd answer, just in a different order. This person is also a so-call MVP.
This sort of behaviour discourages people from providing answers. I will admit, I was so cross (cleaning that up) at the time, that I even considered pulling down all my articles and starting up elsewhere.
So no Chris, the system of down-voting is NOT working well.
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Thanks for your comments. It certainly bolsters my case as well.
I would however, request you NOT to bring down articles (or move to another site) because of the behavior of a down-voter.
I have contributing to CP for a long time now and a few down-votes here and there don't matter at all when you are enjoying contributing to a website!
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I also have been a member here for a good many years, and have contributed various articles. The comment about moving was a "spur of the moment in anger" type thing, but this site has helped me so much over the years, when I was still able to work in the industry full time, I owe it. I still think something should be done about people who are down-voting in such a manner, though. It does discourage answers and suggestions being provided.
P.S. Hopefully new article coming up within a couple of weeks
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Midi_Mick wrote: P.S. Hopefully new article coming up within a couple of week
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That of course a baseless accusation of the 3rd person (me), but I can live with it...The question is, can you?
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: The question is, can you?
As the accuser or as the accused?
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Let's play a thought exercise here and assume that Chris makes ALL voting public. Summarize what you think will happen.
This space for rent
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Let's play a thought exercise here and assume that Chris makes ALL voting public
I will have the popcorn ready. Just let me know when it becomes public
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Midi_Mick wrote: the person providing the 3rd answer just downvoted the other two. Since the voting system is anonymous (for good reason) you have no evidence to support that statement.
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Yeah but he believes it and so will many others. That's an automatic side effect of an opaque voting system. Over a long period though, the number of fair votes should significantly outnumber the bad ones. Which is what Chris is going for. he can only implement the system, he cannot stop some site members from acting like dicks.
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Nish Nishant wrote: but he believes it It always amazes me how many people do.
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It's the same anywhere else too. Artificial score manipulation and unfair down votes are everywhere. Stack Overflow is apparently several times worse than CP is on that regard.
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