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How did you actually get data about Edge over there? I couldn't find it in the list (did I miss something?) And the latest version of IE (11.0.18) actually scores 348.
Anyway, I don't think that those results are more significant than a speed comparison, simply because the site also checks for draft specifications that haven't reached an official status (recommendation) yet and therefore, one cannot expect those to be working. Support for such features might have been left out on purpose.
It's funny that people (or better, developers) still beat IE for its lack of "standards compliance" just because it's really aiming to be fully standard compliant but not more - just because it doesn't support all that fancy prefixed stuff that other browsers introduced, they think it is less standard-compliant than the competition when it actually is the very reverse. In some way, Chrome and Co. are the IE of our time because they're acting like IE in the late 90s, providing a lot of non-standardized stuff, and developers step into that trap again by writing markup and code that treats these features as if they were a standard (and complain when things break in IE).
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I cheated by using the search[^] page. 
As far as prefix problems go, you're a bit behind the times now. In response to objections like the one you made Google[^] stopped adding prefixes to Chrome 2 years ago. IIRC Mozilla did the same with FF shortly after, but I'm drawing a blank in Google. They can't turn off the cluster-elephant they created without busting lots of sites; but they went to an alternate method of enabling new experimental features for testing that required the user to explicitly opt it. I'm not a web dev, and it's been long enough I don't recall if the method they chose was a flag in settings, installing a developer build instead of a release build, or something else.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Search...  completely missed this tab. 
I'm not a web dev, too, so I can't really tell if it's still valid, I just pointed it out because it's one aspect of the IE bashing from which I always thought it's a little unfair.
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DVLUP helps developers hone your skills, deepen your understanding about Microsoft products, increase your revenue and grow your audience. "Us oldsters who predate Whuffie know that it's important; but to the kids, it's the _world_."
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At Microsoft BUILD today, the company announced a new framework, Vorlon, that helps developers debug remote devices running Javascript. "Ah, you seek meaning. Then listen to the music, not the song."
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No, it's a very ancient race that fought with the Shadow in order to try to dominate the galaxy (in Babylon 5 series).
Where've you been?
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Dang I miss that show.
Drat, not on Netflix. Hmmm. whattodo, whattodo?
TTFN - Kent
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If it weren't "improper" I'd suggest you find a method to perhaps download the five seasons from somewhere or other. That however, is frowned upon.
Should you find a method to watch this series, it has some special qualities that make it the best SciFi, ever:
The characters really do develop - logically, sensibly, even realistically.
Since it's a fixed storyline there's no reason for any character to "always get out of it somehow", so predictability based on the usual TV standards is gone. Neither heroes nor villains are immortal.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Should you find a method to watch this series, it has some special qualities that make it the best SciFi, ever
Completely agreed. Also, it had actual alien aliens, not just people with funky foreheads.
TTFN - Kent
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If you're going on a quest for Babylon 5 you might watch out for LEXX as well, if you missed it. Not as high a production quality as Babylon 5 but also refreshingly different from other SciFi's and really funny.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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I don't know why, but I could never seem to get into LEXX back in the day. Maybe I should give it another try. I know I missed the beginning of it, maybe that's why?
TTFN - Kent
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Kent Sharkey wrote: I know I missed the beginning of it, maybe that's why?
Yes, definitely. Without the beginning you're completely lost. You should watch at least the three first movie-length parts, then optionally skip seasons 1 and 2 (like in Star Trek there's no real story arc) but seasons 3 and 4 are just great.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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It also was the first sci-fi show I ever saw to accurately represent spaceship maneuvering with thrusters and dealt correctly (at least from a visual standpoint) with the physics of mass and momentum. In other words, when a ship fired its thrusters to execute a rotation, it would then fire the counter thrusters to terminate that rotation. You don't see that anywhere else. Even the latest Star Trek "Into Darkness", they fire the thrusters to align the two spacecraft (gotta love how space makes all that noise) but they never fire the counter thrusters so they can stay in alignment. Of course, that level of technical detail is beyond the casual observer, haha.
Marc
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How will this end?
In fire.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Under the hood, it's a fancy Web app, using Google's browser. If only they had something comparable to create it with!
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The Internet Archive has done an amazing job of preserving classic games by making them playable in your browser; the group's efforts have covered everything from MS-DOS games to titles from the arcades. And now you don't even have to leave Twitter to play some of them. Finally, someone has developed a reason to care about Twitter
And just out of curiousity, what happens if I do this? https://archive.org/details/msdos_Oregon_Trail_The_1990 via @internetarchive
Edit: nope, doesn't work.
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Still not as good as other communities for short-blogging.
Personally, (not being fanatic) but if I have to post something small (~140 characters), I post it on Lounge. Lounge has more fun than Twitter.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: Personally, (not being fanatic) but if I have to post something small (~140 characters), I post it on Lounge. Lounge has more fun than Twitter.
Very true. (Still, Oregon Trail is the best use of 140 characters I can think of. Maybe Lemmings.
TTFN - Kent
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http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2015/04/29/c-11-14-17-features-in-vs-2015-rc.aspx[^]
I'm not quoting anything since all the interesting stuff is in a pair of tables; but the only incomplete C++11 items are expression SFINAE (no), constexpr (partial), and C99 preprocessor (partial). C++11 constexpr is footnoted as will probably be working before RTM, the preprocessor is unchanged from VS2013. Even after reading the standard proposal[^] and wiki article[^] I'm not sure WTE SFINAE is supposed to be about beyond that it involves the cluster elephant of C++ templates. Hidden in the faq is a comment that at the compiler level they're planning to release it as an VC2015 update instead of holding it for the next major release; but to avoid compatibility problems the STL won't be updated until later.
C++14 support went from 1/11(12 if you count an optional item) to 8/11 bullet points; and C++17 went from 1/10 to 4/10.
The C++14/17 standard library is complete except for 7 items waiting on constexpr to be fully debugged and one that's related to SFINAE.
Most of the updates are in the just released RC build; but a few were implemented between when that codebase was locked down and now, and won't be available publicly until RTM.
If anything in my attempt to summarize that's wrong I plead knowing just enough C++ to be dangerous. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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SFINAE[^] itself is a concept that has been an important part of C++ since the use of templates was seriously explored.
It basically allows the compiler to consider any potential type for the creation of a template. If an error were to occur because of one of the potential substitutions, it will simply remove that from the list of candidates. As long as there is a valid candidate to instantiate the template no error will be emitted.
The "expression SFINAE" in the C++11 standard expands the compiler support to evaluate and consider certain expressions that are known at compile-time, and therefore should be able to be resolved by SFINAE.
IMO, this is a corner-case that will be nice when it's support appears, but it is by no means something that will be sorely missed by many.
constexpr on the other hand is one that I have been waiting for from VS for years.
Dan Neely wrote: If anything in my attempt to summarize that's wrong I plead knowing just enough C++ to be dangerous.
Everything you said was accurate.
I assert that C, C#, JAVA, JavaScript and even C++ programmers know enough to be dangerous in C++.
I think the devs that are dangerous, are the ones that believe they have learned it all...
I'm pretty sure that's not you 
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I'll take a look at your article later; but thanks for the plain English short version. Unless I start doing crazy stuff with templates, that's probably all I really need to know.
Paul M Watt wrote: I assert that C, C#, JAVA, JavaScript and even C++ programmers know enough to be dangerous in C++.
I think the devs that are dangerous, are the ones that believe they have learned it all...
I'm pretty sure that's not you
I've got mixed feelings about the syntax similarities in that family too. Yeah it's nice that you can generally follow code in any of them if you know just one, and being able to jump in and bang out a few quick updates right away is convenient; but they all have enough gotchas to ambush the overconfident. And despite using it for most of the last decade I still wouldn't even claim to know all of C# Winforms programming; never mind WPF or the web bits.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: I've got mixed feelings about the syntax similarities in that family too. Yeah it's nice that you can generally follow code in any of them if you know just one, and being able to jump in and bang out a few quick updates right away is convenient; but they all have enough gotchas to ambush the overconfident.
Yes there are both pluses and minuses in making these languages have similar syntax. It requires discipline to learn and adopt the idioms of each. Often you can look at, say, C# code and tell whether the dev came from a C++ or VB background but, ideally, you shouldn't be able to.
Kevin
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IBM sees the future of quantum computing as having a major impact in the life sciences and chemistry fields. Sadly, all it shows are cat videos
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Sadly, all it shows are cat videos
Dead cat videos, or live cat videos? Or do I have to watch the video to find out whether that is dead or live?
Marc
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I was trying to figure out how to work that in, so thank you.
TTFN - Kent
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