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Yesterday Microsoft held a surprise press conference in LA when they unveiled the Microsoft Surface Tablet, a product that they have successfully managed to keep under-wraps for a couple of years (I created on online poll, and of the 74 respondents, only 25 guessed correctly).
The new tablet comes in two flavours, both of which run Windows 8. The cheaper model, Surface RT, has an ARM processor and will only run newer Metro-style Windows 8 applications (Win8 has a rather strange split personality, it is almost two separate OSs in one), while the more expensive model, Surface Pro, is a bit bulkier and includes an Intel processor that will allow it to run both Metro and traditional desktop apps. Most significantly, the Surface Pro model will run all of your existing Windows software (Word, Excel, Visual Studio, PhotoShop, …)
So why has Microsoft made this bold move? It doesn’t have much of a reputation as a hardware manufacturer!
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Farhan Ghumra wrote:
So why has Microsoft made this bold move? It doesn’t have much of a reputation as a hardware manufacturer!
Because none of the existing pads uses Windows and the market grews will the laptop market wanes, I think. 
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Author of Primary ROleplaying SysTem
How do I take my coffee? Black as midnight on a moonless night.
War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.
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Farhan Ghumra wrote: So why has Microsoft made this bold move? It doesn’t have much of a reputation as a hardware manufacturer!
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XBox?
Their mice and keyboards are good too.
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Farhan Ghumra wrote: Yesterday Microsoft held a surprise press conference
Who was surprised?
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(CNN) -- It's sacrilege to some Apple fanboys. It's also something none of Apple's competitors have been able to claim since that "magical" day in early 2010.
But when Microsoft unveiled the Surface tablet (actually a pair of them) Monday, the software company clearly had one ultimate goal: to make a tablet that's better than the iPad.
By most standards, Apple has crushed its tablet rivals that have tried to compete feature-for-feature. No single tablet running Google's Android system has gotten much traction (save the smaller, cheaper Kindle Fire from Amazon) and BlackBerry maker RIM's Playbook hit the market with a thud.
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The keyboard in fact is a good idea. But it's awful. The most hideous tablet I ever saw. For the creative ones it think it's not alternative.
The size otherwise is not good for me. 16:9 in computer monitores is crap. I, as a user of Indesign, Premiere and Visual Studio, like to have many tools on my screen. 16:9 for the remaining movie frame isn't possible, when you place toolbars there. I think a pad is for demonstrating. You have to use office products and pages aren't 16:9. So CNN is wrong for me.
The processor otherwise is good. I hope other manufactorers of pads will move on to more powerful machines, too.
And if cause the missing USB-port is one matter that I don't have an apple.
As a user of a Lenovo netbook there are some good attributes, because I can't relinquish a keyboard.
The new surface pad isn't ready for me yet. I would't buy something so ugly neither touch it. 
But if they spend a new design I could think about buying a surface.
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Author of Primary ROleplaying SysTem
How do I take my coffee? Black as midnight on a moonless night.
War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.
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ihoecken wrote: I would't buy something so ugly neither touch it.
Tablets are all basically just rectangles. How much uglier can one rectangle be compared to another?  But I've never been one to buy something based purely on appearances, if something is ugly but does what I need it to then that's what I'll buy. It doesn't matter how pretty a computer is if it gets the job done, it's a tool not a display piece.
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lewax00 wrote: f something is ugly but does what I need it to then that's what I'll buy.
yeah - i've seen your wife 
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That's uncalled for. Do you know him personally? 
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Him? No. His wife ? ...
Chill - joke icon and everything, dude. Jeezus!
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Joke icons do not exempt you from rudeness.
You sir, are a dingbat.
Joke icon, chill...
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Overkille_512 wrote: Joke icons do not exempt you from rudeness.
What was rude about it? nothing. Has the op complained? No. just f*** off.
Overkille_512 wrote: You sir, are a dingbat.
At least you had the honour to call me 'Sir'
Overkille_512 wrote: Joke icon, chill...
 icon - stick it up your arse
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Perhaps you thought it was a joke, but it wasn't funny. When I was a little boy it had already had been old as the hills...
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Author of Primary ROleplaying SysTem
How do I take my coffee? Black as midnight on a moonless night.
War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.
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ihoecken wrote: Perhaps you thought it was a joke,
in as much as it wasn't serious, yes.
ihoecken wrote: but it wasn't funny.
a matter of opinion, always
ihoecken wrote: When I was a little boy i
not too long ago, I'd guess.
ihoecken wrote: <layer>it had already had been old as the hills...
What? you're kidding, right? Go on, I dare you - find me a reference somewhere. Yeah? can't can you? no - cuz you're full of sh*t!
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Can you get me next week's lotto numbers too?
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Yes.
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45
Oh! wait! - did you mean the winning ones?
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_Maxxx_ wrote: did you mean the winning ones?
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Yes.
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45
Inappropriate for a programming forum. You need to supply the numbers in a better format. Here you go:
for (int i=1; i<=45; ++i) {
Console.WriteLine(i.ToString()+Environment.NewLine);
}
-CB 
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lewax00 wrote: But I've never been one to buy something based purely on appearances, if something is ugly but does what I need it to then that's what I'll buy.
That's ok. I see it different. For me beauty is important. I don't like ugly people. For humans beauty comes from inside (and so does ugliness) for machines and objects beauty comes from the outside.
In fact all my decisions on buying or doing something depends on the fact if I like it or not. Therefore I'm always happy cause I gather beauty around me. If you will see me on the street I'll smile, you can ask anybody who knows me. I'm never bad-tempered- I can't be because I know prettiness is everywhere around me.
So for me: No Surface. It's ugly. And ugliness brings fretfulness.
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Author of Primary ROleplaying SysTem
How do I take my coffee? Black as midnight on a moonless night.
War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.
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Oh my, how different is it from an iPad? "It's ugly", give me a break.
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ihoecken wrote: The most hideous tablet I ever saw.
My wife thinks it's gorgeous and cannot wait to get one. And she uses an iPad, a Macbook Air and an iPhone. She's also Japanese and if you've ever been to Japan, you would know that they value beautiful things.
So beauty really is in the eye of the beholder, and honestly, I think my wife sees clearly. But that might be my bias speaking.
ihoecken wrote: I, as a user of Indesign, Premiere and Visual Studio, like to have many tools on
my screen. 16:9 for the remaining movie frame isn't possible, when you place
toolbars there.
BTW, the notebook I'm typing this on has a 16:9 ratio screen (1920 x 1080) and I write code on it all the time.
P.S. Sorry for the multiple edits, I moved the wrong quote the first time.
Mike Poz
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I don't understand your title when I read your content. I didn't see even 1 reason listed why Microsoft's Surface is better than an iPad. All I see is a brief recount of history and a rant about fan-boys.
Joel Palmer
Data Integration Engineer
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You're supposed to reference the article he linked to...
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Tablets have been more like "consumer electronics" than "computer". Surface could be the one that fills the gap.
TOMZ_KV
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