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SAKryukov wrote:
The Questions & Answers part of site is overwhelmed with dead questions which very unlikely will be ever answered.
Since the questions are presented in order asked, or updated, in pages, 20 per page, and you also have the option, in your settings for 'Forums, to hide posts you have viewed before: and, we have the option to filter by active, answered, unanswered, etc.

How does the total number of back-pages directly affect you ... assuming you do not review every single page (now #1963 of them, and growing) that's ever been posted very often ?
SAKryukov wrote:
Most of them really use resources and distract members' attention at the expense of decent posts
How is that these back posts distract your attention ? I'd like to understand exactly what you mean by that.

Now: the second issue you "mixed-in" in this paragraph: of the possible "burial" of "decent posts" in the large number of back-posts: I see that as a separate issue, entirely, and I agree with you on that, and think a remedy is called for by some mechanism like a selector button for "highest rated" posts (as found on StackOverFlow, for instance).
SAKryukov wrote:
Such dead questions could be automatically removed on certain condition (I'll discuss the conditions later), with notification sent to their author (so they would have a chance to legitimately re-post them after serious and proper re-formulation), but there is some risk of removing something good. This risk is not too high, because anyway, presently good but unanswered questions get sunk in the crowd of useless posts if they are not answered during certain period of time.
Yet we, the responders, do have two mechanisms available now: one is that if you have a certain "rep" you can delete questions ... that's one I have used only once, and am extremely reluctant to use. The other mechanism, the "bump," is to add a comment, or update, in order to promote the post back up in view-order: another mechanism, imho, is not constructive; I think it leads to "gaming the system."

But I find myself in agreement with you that under "certain conditions" posts should be automatically removed: I would make these very simple, for example:

1. a post that has been up for one month and had no solutions, or no comment that at least included a link: off with its head.

2. posts that have been up for a month that are vague, diffuse, and where the author does not respond to more than one query from responders asking for clarification ... if there is no perceived substance in the question: off with their heads.

Note that once again, in this paragraph, you mix-in the issue of salvaging good questions that have real substance, but just may not have been responded to for a while, which I agree is a good issue to raise.
SAKryukov wrote:
If this automatic sanitation is not acceptable, what would be the way to remove them in a human-judged way, by some consensus of experts? The volume is too high.
StackOverFlow uses a "posse" system (consensus of high-ranking members) to remove and cancel posts, flagged as "duplicates," "too general," etc., but usually leaves them up with an explanation of why they were cancelled, or halted (and often some of these "halted posts" actually have some good answers.
SAKryukov wrote:
One option is this: adding one more tab in the tab control here: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Answers/List.aspx[^]. This tab would list the candidates for permanent removal.

The criteria for putting a question on this list could be this: 1) not answered during certain period of time; 2) having certain score of reports like "unclear or incomplete", "re-post", "not a question", etc.
Okay, now you click on this Tab: and what do you see, and what can you, the responder do ? Vote for their removal, vote against their removal ? Please say more about this idea.
SAKryukov wrote:
What would be a criteria for permanent removal? We could have a control like "vote to remove", so the removal could be done automatically on certain score of such reports. Such vote could require a written comment confirming the reason for removal. Some small number of point could be awarded to a member participated in this useful work.
Okay, this sounds pretty good to me, but don't we already have a mechanism in place on CP, for example, in the Lounge, where a certain number of 1 votes, or votes to remove, or reports of abuse, result in message elimination ? Couldn't this same mechanism be adopted to work in QA ?

To me, the most interesting issue you raise is the "elevation" of certain QA questions, and/or their answers, to some sort of "Valhalla:" where some of the very high-quality material that, I agree with you, is now "submerged" in the near 2000 pages of QA can remain easy-to-find, easy-to-get to.

But, to take the other-side of this entire set of concerns raised here: does the ability to view QA answers now by "Top Rated," "Popular", and "Active" render a lot of these considerations raised here ... still relevant ?

And, just to blow my one-note horn again: I once again parade the idea that a simple pop-up form that requires clarification of a question's basic parameters ... as a pre-condition of accepting a question for posting ... would go a long way to addressing the issues discussed here.

best, Bill
"Our life is a faint tracing on the surface of mystery, like the idle, curved tunnels of leaf miners on the surface of a leaf. We must somehow take a wider view, look at the whole landscape, really see it, and describe what's going on here. Then we can at least wail the right question into the swaddling band of darkness, or, if it comes to that, choir the proper praise." Annie Dillard

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