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Chris Maunder wrote: Any post that replies directly to a question is automatically set as an answer
Wow. I don't know what to say. If you take a look at my XListCtrl or the TODOList forums, you will see that most answers have a white icon - not the answer icon. I don't ever recall changing any of those icons, either. Clearly, what you think is happening is not happening. The default icon in most cases is coming up as the white one, not the answer one, which means that all the point counts for all article forums are screwed up.
I will certainly pay attention to this now that I know of this glitch, but in the meantime, I hope you will re-classify all article direct replies as 'answers'.
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Take a look at Microsoft Push Notification in Windows Phone 7[^]. The comments are not questions and the direct replies are not answers.
If you can suggest a way to automatically differentiate between comments, questions, rebuttals, acknowledgements and answers I'm happy to experiment.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Here are the issues:
1. When I answer a question on one of my article forums, I click "Reply" and start typing. I hadn't even paid attention to which was the default icon, until I noticed that for one of my recent answers, I got 10, and for another, 1. If I didn't manually change the icon, according to you I should have gotten two 10's, but I didn't.
2. Just now, I hit Reply on a post on one of my articles, and guess what? It came up set to the "General" icon, not the "Answer" icon.
3. If I went to the Q&A forum and answered a question, it would be treated as an answer, no matter what I said. In fact, I would have no choice about this. And BTW, I have seen many answers in Q&A which express opinions, criticisms, and denunciations; all of them without exception get a 10.
4. The conclusion: you are treating answers in the article forums differently than answers in Q&A, which I thought you said you were going to stop doing.
My suggestion:
1. Run a one-time script to categorize all direct-reply answers in all article forums as "Answers", and recalc points.
2. Either: Immediately remove all icons from the message form on the article forums, to prevent this from ever happening again, even by accident; or: implement code that will categorize all direct-reply posts as answers, regardless of which icon is selected (since I have proven that defaulting to the Answer icon is not working correctly).
In any case, all non-direct replies would be treated like comments in Q&A.
These two steps would put answers on an article's forum on the same level as answers in Q&A.
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Your answer is preset to be "Answer" if you are replying to a post marked as a Question. We treat Answers consistently, but the issue here is that in Q&A and in the programming forums we know that all initial posts are questions (otherwise they are inappropriate and should be moved or deleted), but in Articles we cannot and should not make that assumption.
Your suggestions completely ignore the article and its messages that I pointed out to you. In fact look at any new article by a popular author - you'll see a ton of "my vote of 5" comments that should not be treated as a question or answer. Should members who post messages saying "Great article!" really get points for asking a question, and should the author, replying with "Thanks!" get points for answering a question? I don't think so.
The issue isn't about consistency with questions and answers. The issue is about correctly categorising posts in order to collect reputation points. Your first suggestion is to remove icons from posts. This would mean that we treat all messages in articles as just discussion posts and would mean there is no longer a way to flag posts as questions or answers. Giving up this because mis-categorised posts did not receive the points they could have potentially gained is not the right answer.
I'm open on suggestions on how better to help members categorise posts, but a one-size-fits-all approach doesn't work here.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Would it be acceptable to you to re-categorize direct replies, if an author edited (some previous) reply and changed it from "General" to "Answer"? Of course, this would mean trusting authors not to re-categorize any replies to "My 5" posts.
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Yes, I could do that.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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1. Look for Subject lines ending with the character '?'.
2. Look for these words in the Subject line: fix, bug, crash, problem, question, suggestion, request, feature, error, failed, assert, assertion, violation, trouble, warning, issue, incorrect, can't, cannot, using, leak, how, need, please, help, link, linker, compile, compiling, compilation.
These words are positive indicators of a question being asked.
If you scan for both (1) and (2), you will get at least 50% of the questions. You could pick up more by assuming that any post with a subject line of more than 30 characters is a question. This will filter out the "Nice One!" and "My 5!".
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Prelim testing on #2 shows it's very hazy so I'll try as many as I can but will err on the conservative side for this.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I scanned a number of different articles, and it seems like the "real" questions were all greater than 20 chars in length.
I think if you combined (1), (2), and a minimum length, you would have high confidence it's a question.
Thanks for looking at this.
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I did a rough pass tonight which, from the sample of articles I looked at, got most of the ones that I would consider identifiable using the subject line.
It's easy enough now to refine, so take a look at the remaining and we can be a human bayesian filter.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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At this moment it looks like adding a post to Question and Answer is impossible in any form including posting Answer, Comment, reply to comment or even vote.
I happens with SeaMonkey and seems to work OK with IE8.
I already observed this condition for short period of time.
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
modified on Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:58 PM
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I've just posted a question, answer, comment and voted.
I did do a major site update about 2 hrs ago, so maybe a Ctrl+F5 will flush the nasties out, but that's probably no more useful than taking a vitamin C tablet, really.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thank you, Chris.
Exactly, if was working correctly, some 3-4 hours ago. What could have happened on your most recent update(s)?
And, as I say, it doesn't work with Seamonkey but works with IE8.
This is certain instability. One hint: preview is not showing, "Submit solution" button does not appear, as well as "Add comment" and "Reply"
"Improve solution" is showing.
Thank you.
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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That sounds like a javascript issue. I tested with SeaMonkey my end and was able to see the buttons but I did get an ancoding error which I will follow up on.
Did you try Ctrl+F5? Actually, with Firefox 4 I found it was caching old scripts even after Ctrl+F5 so I had to close it and reopen. Annoying.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris,
Thank you for attention to this matter.
It was important to me to post at that time, so I used IE8.
This is a fun part, by the way.
On my time zone, April 1st just began. To me, this is my national celebration (because I consider PhysTech my major nationality, of there this is the celebration #1).
To this date, this is my post: http://www.codeproject.com/Answers/175616/WARNING-Black-Line-of-Death-in-windows-phone-7.aspx[^].
Hope you find it interesting.
We really need a tradition like that.
Even IETF RFC support such April 1st tradition, did you know that? See, for example, http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc1149/[^], this is hilarious.
Have fun and thank you.
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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I enjoyed the post, and yes, April first comes every year 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I'm glad you like it.
Thank you very much.
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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Chris, I forgot to answer your question about F5...
Yes, of course, and also cleaning cookies and cache.
Thank you.
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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So the issue is still there for you, but only for SeaMonkey?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Yes, but... you not gonna believe that... all buttons re-appeared recently -- for Sea Monkey.
I see none of those problems at the moment. Do you have any idea what has been changed?
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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I've just uploaded a new version of the site. That may have kicked things.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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All right, thank your very much for taking care of all that stuff.
Overall, the site is being gradually improved. 
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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So? Natasha Web probably is WebCredible[^]'s secretary and was tasked with publishing pre-existing articles by their developers here on CodeProject...
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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You have the power to report. Use it wisely and with careful consideration.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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