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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Chris is like a cheetah
He eats Gazelles?
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No, I'm furry.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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And your tongue slaps the side of your face when you run.
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Thanks for pointing them out and also for understanding. We re-visit this issue fairly regularly and I'm going to have another chat with the team to see if we can work out a way to make this work for everyone.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thx Chris....
If the article is not right for CP, where can I post such an article? Any ideas?
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Why not approach Telerik? It seems that it should be ideal for them. Alternatively, you could always write it up as a blog posting.
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Is a blog post about telerik ok?
Christian Kleinheinz
From Visions to Solutions
MasterSoft
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Hi Chris,
Greetings to you. Just read the discussion and I think CodeProject should not remove all articles those are from 3rd Parties and require to purchase for work with them. There are many people working with those and a developer first searches in CodeProject before going anywhere because, CodeProject is a huge database of such helpful articles for day to day work.
I think, CP team / moderators of the articles section should read them and if they see any offensive contents, may delete. Otherwise, keeping those contents/articles in their database will help developers.
Chris, please think on this again and take a valid step before removing the articles.
Others, please share your thought here and support me in case you find this helpful.
I will personally say, CP team should not remove those articles if they are helping the developers or the communities.
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Agree. Better option is may move those kind of articles in new category like 3rd party controls or Commercial controls
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Yes, that will be good approach than removing. :Well said thatRaja. 
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Let me present an alternative scenario for you. Say Chris does stop removing these articles and does, instead, move them to a 3rd party solutions section, why would any component author ever pay Code Project for an advert ever again? They could just pretend to be ordinary authors and write up articles about their products, which may not be as stringent in presenting the faults of the components as an ordinary author would.
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You guys could just categorize authors... Articles from authors with fairly new accounts should be double checked or something... But I can just talk about myself... If I'm getting any sort of new lib that i do not already know (is it commercial or non commercial) I'm searching the web for articles on that lib. And CP is the first choice to search for solutions for me... Would be great to find also articles about commercial products, which are not written by the prople who are offering the component. As Pete already pointed out.. These articles will not contain any bugs or problems with the library.
Christian Kleinheinz
From Visions to Solutions
MasterSoft
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We totally understand this too and would love to be able to have the best of both worlds.
Any articles that have been marked as deleted are still in the system so if we can come up with some guidelines that work for authors, sponsors, and the site overall then it's a simple matter to resurrect these articles and give them some light.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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We've had this policy from day 1 and it's this policy that has ensured that the code you download from all the articles posted here is code you can use immediately. Over the years we've seen companies posting articles on their own product purely for the sake of getting free advertising, and it's not been the big, well-known, high quality companies but the smaller we-a-low-budget-and-even-lower-morals companies.
If we opened it up then
a) We defeat our original vision of providing the best repository for free code. Why post free code when you can post an article on your commercial product?
b) Make it harder for members to sift through the articles to find solutions that they can use. We do have paid articles from companies we know and trust but we mark these very clearly. If, each time you do a search on CodeProject, you have the thought "I'm probably only going to find articles on things I have to buy" then you're less likely to bother coming here.
c) We devalue the official paid placements from our sponsors. We provide CodeProject for free but someone, somewhere, has to pay the bills. We're proud to offer a service where companies can provide paid articles. Since we have so few of them they provide a greater impact for our sponsors, and since they are all from companies we know and respect, they provide our readers with in-depth and useful information on paid alternatives.
Opening up to commercial articles sounds like a nice, simple idea but it has consequences that, if not handled very, very carefully, would change the flavour of CodeProject, and not in a good way.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I clearly do understand your point of view...
Are the other telerik articles paid articles? Search just for the term "telerik" and you will find many articles like the small thing i wrote...
And as Kunal_Chowdhury describes in his article
Working with BusyIndicator of Telerik Silverlight RadControls[^]
there is a free trial version of the telerik libs too, meaning that one can test the code without buying anything....
Anyway, as I said, I do understand what you are meaning and I will post third party articles not on CP anymore...
Cheers,
Christian Kleinheinz
From Visions to Solutions
MasterSoft
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Same for me. If CP is staying on that decision, I will not post anymore 3rd party controls article here from now. Also assuming that, those previous articles will not delete from here.
One more query to Chris, what if anyone feed a blog post which says about 3rd party controls? Will that case be taken care too?
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Blog articles must also follow the submission guidelines.
I know this is difficult and frustrating so thanks for being supportive and understanding. We wish the world worked differently some days.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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It's a bad day for me that some of my articles have been removed because of that issue. I obey the rules of CP and can't do anything more for that. I will ensure that, I will not post any article on 3rd party controls from now. Have no other choice than that. 
Will request my readers to follow my blog in such case.
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Sorry for waking up the sleeping dog  But at least CP is fair to the community...
Christian Kleinheinz
From Visions to Solutions
MasterSoft
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Waking up the dog again?
Anyway, anyone who is interested in the RadMessageBox article can find the article here[^].
I will publish articles about 3rd party libs there.
@Chris: Is it ok when I do add the link to my personal CP blog?
Christian Kleinheinz
From Visions to Solutions
MasterSoft
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Hi Kunal,
I have gone through and removed the articles on the list that require third party components.
Unfortunately until we can think of a system that considers and effectively deals with every possibility no article that directly requires third party components can remain. If you or other members find any more, please let us know.
The ideal is to allow and reward authors like yourself who only seek to help other developers with coding problems, but as previously discussed it is a tricky proposition that we do not have a solution for 'yet.'
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
The Code Project
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I reckon I can fix that 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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