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Re: True or false

PIEBALDconsult11-Apr-23 14:25

PIEBALDconsult

11-Apr-23 14:25

I reject the premise of the question.

Re: True or false

Chris Maunder11-Apr-23 14:51

Chris Maunder

11-Apr-23 14:51

I had 4 shots, last one about 6 months ago, and it hit me 3 weeks ago like a ton of bricks. I was still functioning (and coding!) but it was a fairly horrible 3 days, followed by an annoying week, followed by another week of sniffles and cough.

Worse than any flu I've had, most definitely.

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Re: True or false

peterkmx11-Apr-23 20:36

peterkmx

11-Apr-23 20:36

Yes, this looks similar indeed, perhaps vaccine mismatch, fast mutations of the virus ...
I am on day 5 now, after being caught off-guard on Saturday,
it looks like a sleep deprivation contest... Smile | :)

Re: True or false

DrWalter PE12-Apr-23 6:45

DrWalter PE

12-Apr-23 6:45

It appears that our governments are no aware of the definition of "vaccination"

Re: True or false

peterkmx12-Apr-23 23:59

peterkmx

12-Apr-23 23:59

This is new to me ... and btw, my "hell week" Smile | :)

evolves in a good way, still 1-2 days and I'll be like a skylark Smile | :)

Re: True or false

Jeremy Falcon14-Apr-23 3:40

Jeremy Falcon

14-Apr-23 3:40

Don't worry. If you don't see things the profiteering way, there will be re-education camps you can go to soon to make sure you think the accepted way. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

Jeremy Falcon

Re: True or false

dandy7214-Apr-23 7:38

dandy72

14-Apr-23 7:38

peterkm wrote:
Covid after vaccination is like flu squared

...and Covid without vaccination is...?

Can you demonstrably prove the outcome in either case?

That's really the problem.

How did we write code without the Internet?

Marc Clifton11-Apr-23 7:24

Marc Clifton

11-Apr-23 7:24

Yes, we had 200 lbs of reference manuals, and life was simpler.

I just finished a whole bunch of googling to figure out how to bulk copy an archaic Access DBF file into SQL Server, using .NET 7. My comments in the code show some of the depth of the rabbit hole.

// Need to download the Microsoft Access Database Engine 2010 Redistributable for the 64 bit version of the Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB driver.
// Unless you already have the 32 bit version installed, you can't have both, so you would have to uninstall any 32 bit apps, in my case, Visio and FrontPage!
// This appears to work, from SO: use the provider to "Provider=Microsoft.ACE.OLEDB.12.0;" in connection string.
// But it doesn't because the DBF files are so old, so we're back to using Jet.OLEDB and building the importer app as a 32 bit (x86) app.
// And I finally can import the data!

And yes, I still use FrontPage for article writing and I'll be damned if I'm going to uninstall it and Visio 2010 to install the 64 bit Jet drivers, so now my importer app is in x86 mode.

And stunningly, the .NET SqlBulkCopy thing is working perfectly.

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Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Jeremy Falcon11-Apr-23 8:12

Jeremy Falcon

11-Apr-23 8:12

Marc Clifton wrote:
And yes, I still use FrontPage for article writing

Noooooo.... Nooo Marc. My eyes. They're melting. Aaaaaggggggggggh. WTF | :WTF:

Jeremy Falcon

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Marc Clifton11-Apr-23 13:41

Marc Clifton

11-Apr-23 13:41

hahaha. It's still the best darn editor for split HTML and WYSIWYG editing, IMO.

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Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

MikeD 212-Apr-23 4:57

MikeD 2

12-Apr-23 4:57

You didn't get to try Expression Web 4 then?

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

trønderen11-Apr-23 8:38

trønderen

11-Apr-23 8:38

I guess that you are not using the same mainboard, disk, keyboard and screen as you did in the 1900s. So what happened to that machine? Or, I suppose, those machines that you have replaced. Didn't you keep keep any of them for running old SW? (and for that sake: HW. I've got several pieces of hardware that cannot be moved to my current machine for lack of interface / bus.)

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Marc Clifton11-Apr-23 13:38

Marc Clifton

11-Apr-23 13:38

trønderen wrote:
Didn't you keep keep any of them for running old SW?

Yes, and several are still sitting in my shed. None earlier than W95, it would be amusing to fire up Windows 3.1. Or a DOS box. I wonder what happened to the PDP/11 that I cut my teeth on (not literally) when I was in 7th grade.

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Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Mike Hankey11-Apr-23 9:51

Mike Hankey

11-Apr-23 9:51

Not only write code but all the information that's available on EVERYTHING, it's amazing what Mr.Google knows.

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Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Gary R. Wheeler11-Apr-23 12:45

Gary R. Wheeler

11-Apr-23 12:45

This is one place where virtual machines really come in handy.

It's such a shame that the IT gestapo where I work won't let me use VirtualBox (which is free) and refuse to give me a license for the sanctioned VM package.

Software Zen: delete this;

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Nelek11-Apr-23 13:17

Nelek

11-Apr-23 13:17

Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
This is one place where virtual machines really come in handy.

Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
It's such a shame that the IT gestapo where I work won't let me use VirtualBox (which is free) and refuse to give me a license for the sanctioned VM package

I can relate to that too... sadly

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Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

englebart12-Apr-23 15:01

englebart

12-Apr-23 15:01

They are trying to keep you focused.😁

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Sander Rossel11-Apr-23 21:31

Sander Rossel

11-Apr-23 21:31

I currently work with someone who's officially retired, but sticks around because his software is VB6 and dBase and nobody knows how that stuff works.
He's currently converting everything to SQL Server, despite not knowing how SQL Server works (I don't know how he does it).

After that I get to rewrite his software to .NET (he already ported two application to .NET Framework 2, obviously he doesn't know how that works either).
Not particularly looking forward to inheriting that one Sigh | :sigh:

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Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

jschell13-Apr-23 6:26

jschell

13-Apr-23 6:26

Sander Rossel wrote:
how SQL Server works (I don't know how he does it).

Based on your description I would not expect linq. So he must be using SQL.

Since dBase code is just table based only thing he needs to learn is the basic SQL statements.

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Kees van Sighem12-Apr-23 1:27

Kees van Sighem

12-Apr-23 1:27

My turbo pascal 2.0 manual was one handy paperback pocketbook. It was all you needed. Try that with c#. They keep adding stuff, when are they gooing to remove a lot of fluff?

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

Nelek12-Apr-23 11:43

Nelek

12-Apr-23 11:43

Kees van Sighem wrote:
when are they gooing to remove a lot of fluff?

Hopefully not so soon, I cant get up-to-date to the last shiny ways and I am mostly using the old fashioned things.

M.D.V.

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

atverweij12-Apr-23 2:33

atverweij

12-Apr-23 2:33

We wrote it much better back then.

Now we have internet, we have to find out everything ourselves as nothing gets documented, go to code project and other sites to ask other users how things work.
Before the internet, everything was properly documented, so we didn't need those forums.

So the answer is that it is much harder now than it was before the internet.

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

jschell13-Apr-23 6:28

jschell

13-Apr-23 6:28

atverweij wrote:
We wrote it much better back then.

Well that must explain why we are on TLS 1.3 now. Because SSL and the previous versions of TLS were "better".

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

atverweij13-Apr-23 6:48

atverweij

13-Apr-23 6:48

You completely miss the point.
Before the internet there was no such thing as SSL or TLS.

Re: How did we write code without the Internet?

jschell14-Apr-23 11:22

jschell

14-Apr-23 11:22

atverweij wrote:
You completely miss the point.

Ah...you mean when the only source for learning Fortran was by reading the CDC Manual that was chained to the desk in the Operations center?

Of course one could buy it for about $200 or so which was, adjusting for inflation, about $925 now.

That was the only source for learning it. And it was not written for learning.

Or slightly later...When I learned C++ there were only two books originally available. Stroustrup's book and then the other wasn't even for C++ but rather for Objective C. The Ellis book came out about then also but those were the only books at all.

Might note also that I worked in a book store then, so I did in fact have resources that the vast majority of people did not.

Yet now when I search for "C++ Programming" in Amazon I see pages of results.

So no I don't think that the documentation now is worse than it was then.

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