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ZurdoDev wrote: Never finance a car.
My '06 (bought new) was financed at 0%. My bank couldn't match that.
I had the money and could've paid it cash in one go, but it still made sense to spread the expense over 3 years.
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dandy72 wrote: it still made sense
To you.
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Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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So, enlighten me: What did I have to gain (or lose) by not "financing" it at 0%?
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Peace of mind. The debtor is slave to the master. There are so many things that could have happened during that time.
Read Dave Ramsey. He's written books on it, as have many others.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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I've never considered it to be much of a "debt" given that, as I had mentioned, I was ready to pay it in full, in cash, when I bought it. If at any time the "master" insisted on getting paid the rest in full as one lump payment, this little slave had the money ready on hand.
I've never bought anything in my life I couldn't have paid in full, upfront, if that's how I had decided to pay for it. For that matter, I've never had a need for a credit card until my mid-30s and started to buy stuff online.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Probably just for people in the US, where do you go to find a used car?
I would look at Hertz. It appears that they are about to go bankrupt, and I would think that they would sell you anything at fire sale prices.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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Good point.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Ubisoft is giving Assesins creed II, Child of Light and Rayman Legends for free.
End is tomorrow May 5th
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Assassin's Creed: (something vikings) is coming out soon and I think they want to get people back into playing the game prior to the new release.
not sure about the other games; never heard of them.
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Slacker007 wrote: Assassin's Creed: (something vikings)
Valhalla
They are pre-selling it. I need a better PC for that 
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Slacker007 wrote: Assassin's Creed: (something vikings) is coming out soon and I think they want to get people back into playing the game prior to the new release.
The problem is that Assassin's Creed games are better when you haven't played one for a while.
I could only manage a few hours of Odyssey as I played it too soon after Origins (which I platinum'd - so a lot of hours).
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Powered up my gaming machine.
Launched their Uplay client.
Logged in.
Added the 3 games to my library.
Shut down the client.
Shut down the machine.
And that's probably all I'm ever going to do with them.
But I still welcome the heads-up.
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If I'm not using Camel case, which I rarely stray from, I'll use underscores without a second thought.
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But... do you mix the styles? 
Next you will say, you mix gin with water 
M.D.V. 
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I occasionally use underscores to follow low-level C++ conventions, like defining signal_t or main_t as the type for a POSIX signal or the value returned by main. And the name of a private data member ends in an underscore.
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Greg Utas wrote: the name of a private data member ends in an underscore.
You heathen. Everyone knows that private member names begin with an underscore.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Everyone knows that identifiers starting with an underscore are reserved for the implementation.
Keep Calm and Carry On
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It is reserved for those who implement things like the standard library that usually comes with your compiler. Using a beginning underscore for member names or inside a function is legal, but not recommended. But, that being said, when I write classes in the standard C++ format (all lowercase), I use a trailing underscore to distinguish member variables from local variables.
INTP
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone
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Yes, but I relented on that issue in order to achieve a compromise on underscores. I didn't want underscores in the leading position at all, while Mr. Object wanted underscores to be prohibited unless they were in the leading position indicating scope. I use underscores in locals which for me are generally all lower case. I also use underscores in globals when the name includes an acronym: ObjectABC_Factory, for example, where ABC is the acronym.
Back story: My group has a naming convention and coding style document that is 1½ pages, and most of it recommends rather requires or prohibits. In fact, I think there's only one thing in it that is absolutely prohibited, and that's Hungarian notation. When we created this document in 2000, that was still quite a thing when doing Windows programming. The only place we allow it to be used is in argument names for callback functions, and they are recommended to use the same names as in the documentation.
For what it's worth, we've never had a conflict between our use of leading underscores and any compiler in the last 20 years, and that's spread over tens of millions of lines of C, C++, and C# code.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: there's only one thing in it that is absolutely prohibited, and that's Hungarian notation
FTMFW! The worst shite ever dreamt up.
I found a post about leading underscores which also pointed out that the trailing _t's that I occasionally use are reserved in POSIX standards. Yawn.
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Is that Apps Hungarian or Systems Hungarian?
Systems Hungarian is indeed "The worst shite ever dreamt up", but Apps Hungarian I can understand even if I don't use it.
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I had to look this up, because I didn't realize there were two variants. So thanks for prompting that!
Apps Hungarian isn't as bad, but arcane prefixed abbreviations to denote a purpose don't appeal to me. If something has a small scope, such as a loop variable, a single letter often works as a name. If it has a large scope, I'd rather see it spelled out.
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The original Hungarian notation was actually supposed to be useful at the time. The prefix should have been a 'type' as in 'size', 'color', 'frequency', 'voltage', etc. So if you defined your variables as;
float szAnimal, szElephant
float colAnimal, colElephant
float vLethal
Then when you looked at the code, the line:
szAnimal = colElephant * 0.5
Should ring alarm bells, while:
vLethal = VoltagToKillBySize(szElephant)
is fine!
Of course, once idiots started using stupid prefixes like iCount, fWeight, pData and similar it became the spawn of the devil and was rightly banned by all sane people.
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