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We have a bird in the tree outside my window that mimics the cat's meow. He's pretty good - he fools me pretty often that "Dij Wants In".
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He's a chantily. They chirp and squeak
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Um, you do know that cats only make noises to humans because they're predators, don't you? They interact with each other in complete silence
Have you never seen your cat stretching itself up a wall and making funny, squeaky, screechy noises at a moth, fluttering away above it?
Those funny noises are the human-hearable residue of the cat imitating the sounds that the moth is making (which the cat can hear, but we can't).
So cats only "talk" and make cute noises at you because you're their victim.
I speak as someone who hasn't lived without a cat for the better part of forty years, despite the sh1t-f***-buggery mess cat fur makes of your vocal chords (so don't ask me to sing unless I've been away from home for at least three days, because I won't be able to hit a note).
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So kittens in a litter that haven't seen a human are completely silent? 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: So kittens in a litter that haven't seen a human are completely silent?
This something that's really cool to analyse. It's too complicated and messy (and phenomenally/inspiringly educational) to go into it in the CP Lounge, but if you're interested in how animals' (including humans') brains work, it's a fascinating field of research.
I know this because I researched it thirty years ago 
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I know this because I researched it thirty years ago
And cats only meow because of "humans"? So before humans, cats were completely silent?
Lions do not roar either, except for humans?
It's a nice myth, which does explain something interesting about the arrogance of our species and brain.
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With cats, it's a major predator thing, the same as when people use duck-quacky-things to make ducks stick their heads up to be shot off -- cats have more cranial processing space than ducks.
You might notice that every cat makes a different noise to get food, get rubbed, or get dried off after they've been out in the rain. It's all because their predatory instincts have pointed in the directions for doing so, that works in their current situation.
As for kitten noises, I confess I haven't looked into that, so I don't know, and therefore won't comment on it. Gimme a couple of months, when I find the time.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: You might notice that every cat makes a different noise to get food, get rubbed, or get dried off after they've been out in the rain. It's all because their predatory instincts have pointed in the directions for doing so, that works in their current situation.
How does that differ from any other animal? Do dogs not work in a similar way? Even cows do not shut up, and they're definitely not predators.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Do dogs not work in a similar way? Even cows do not shut up, and they're definitely not predators.
Sure, but dogs and cows make pretty much the same noises for everything. Cats make very distinct lure calls, imitating, as far as they can, the sounds of the things they're preying on.
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Duckheads ... or whatever misspelling of those ...
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Not only the "kittens" bit that was previously mentioned, but ... have you ever seen a cat indoors looking at birds in a tree and "cacking". That's not for humans, that's for himself ...
And cats don't interact with each other silently: they purr, growl, hiss, ... but they know we don't have tails and must communicate somehow without them, so the do meow to us. (and purr, growl, hiss, ...)
Dij does a good line in silent "Guilt stares" when he thinks it's time for Dreamies Cat Treats and I don't.
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OriginalGriff wrote: And cats don't interact with each other silently: they purr, growl, hiss, ... but they know we don't have tails and must communicate somehow without them, so the do meow to us. (and purr,growl, hiss, ...)
true, but the "meow" comes from their their instinctive hunters' predatory "thinking".
I don't think I'd be as happy as I am if I didn't have a cat living with me, but it's always best to understand all about the monsters that live nearby.
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Cat's gotta be thinking, they're statements, not mere opinions...
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I know what I want, so how could these human blobs possibly want something else?!?
Yup. That fits the masses of empirical evidence I've been subjected to.
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Our cat understands both the Indian languages we speak at home.
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"Your life is but to service his." - that about sums it up.
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A recent thread in this forum complained that a particular issue was "ungoogleable" because of the vagueness of the words involved. This reminded me of a song I played in high school pep band that I tried to Google a while back and couldn't figure out how. The song title was ["A" Rock] (without the square brackets - I added them as pseudo-quotes because the double quotes ARE part of the title).
When I try to Google this, Google ignores the quotes, discards the "A" as an article adjective, and simply returns results for "rock" (which of course give me millions of results unrelated to this song). Any suggestions as to how I might find information about this song, if such even exists?
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DuckDuckGo also gives the same result.
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Yes, but giving useful and usable results doesn't make money for google!
Get with the program. eh?
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I get results googling for ""A" Rock" song
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Years ago my brother-in-law made me look for "The Sound of C", a song he remembered from his childhood.
I guess Google's gotten that much better since then, because right now the very first hit brings back the actual music video for the song. Back then...it was pretty much like looking for Vin Diesel's "XXX" (without being able to include Vin Diesel as part of the search term).
By the way, in this particular instance, the C's gotta stand for "crap". I've not included the link to spare you from that earworm.
This would make a good survey topic...what are your ungoogleable terms?
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