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Do I sense a theme in your recent replies? 
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The theme might be senility, as my intention was to reply to another post, but luckily no one noticed except you, bonus points for seeing that 
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Senility rules! If no one else notices, it simply emphasizes this observation
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What you may not know is that when you finally installed your Linux box (granted it can be painful and long) the OS became a non-issue...
Even updating the installed packages is done in the background - no restart of OS, and not even restart of running application...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: - no restart of OS, and not even restart of running application...
it's more than that:
- menus/icons don't get moved around / messed up,
- hard/software settings don't get reset,
- other/unrelated software doesn't get randomly shat upon...
- after upgrades temporary artifacts aren't left behind hogging storage space
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and after updates the next time you start your machine:
windows: hold your breath hoping it starts,
... and if it does start still wonder how long it'll take to set back your preferences etc.
linux: looks, acts, works and everything is set exactly the same. straight back to work/play.
so refreshing!
but anyhoo was wondering more curious on how "selling" linux to 'SWMBO' went?
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Lopatir wrote: "selling" linux to 'SWMBO' went?
Ha! That one...
In my case it went all wrong - now I have to manage her brand new Windows 10 laptop (she do not like the screen, the ads, the notifications)...
Luckily the kids go easily with their Linux machine - so it is only one Windows machine to the whole family...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Ha! That one...
ahhh, I'm picturing the scene in the documentary where the wildebeest have run 10,000 miles through the desert, standing around looking at each other and thinking to themselves "dammit Sir David[^], why did you have to tell the viewers our destination is on the other side of that crocodile infested river!"
... so you're the first one down,
... few more victims (yes watching you @John-Simmons-outlaw-programmer )
... and it should be safe a lot safer for the rest of us. 
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The funny thing is that herself saw me for nearly 10 year, and the kids for over 4 years working with Fedora and has no problems at all... In the meantime he had a hard crash and spent hours swearing and calling out for help...
So - yes I lost that battle, but she lost even more me think... Maybe JSOP's wife will learn from it and will appreciate the effort he put into that upgrade...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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The problem right now is that the occasional failures (regarding the home theater setup) are in direct line of sight, and she even mentioned that "the new OS migration didn't seem to be going as planned".
0) Thunderbird was an important hurdle because she uses that for email (I've figured out my prior issues with it).
1) She also does occasional excel work (nothing real fancy), but Libre Office handles that pretty well.
2) The only thing really keeping me from putting Linux on her box is the selection hot-key thing with regards to the number keypad. It annoys me, so I'm positive it will annoy her.
The only other thing she really does on her desktop is cruise the web.
Was your wife's problem a hardware thing? I can't imagine having a catastrophic software problem with Linux, because it's not - well - Windows 10. My new Dell laptop came with Win10 on it, but I never booted it that way. I immediately put Linux on it, and it's been quite a nice experience.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Was your wife's problem a hardware thing?
No. It seems to be a built in fear... (I pick the laptop, so if she would go for Linux I would pick the right hardware anyway)
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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I've already convinced her to try it, but I want to iron out any weirdness before I put it on her machine. If SWMBO encounters bumps (and she will), I want them to be as small as possible.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Posted, but I wasn't really ready to.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Munchies_Matt wrote: this is freaky!
Why?
We've known about Mitochondrial Eve[^] since the 80's, and there have been a couple of Y-chromosomal Adams[^] over the long term.
We know this is a dangerous place to live, and that every now and then the planet does it's best to get rid off all species: Snowball Earth[^], Supervolcanos[^], Asteroid impacts[^], Pandemics[^], etc.
So when we were setting out from Africa, it probably didn't take much to trim the population to really tiny levels.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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OriginalGriff wrote: We know this is a dangerous place to live, and that every now and then the planet does it's best to get rid off all species: Snowball Earth[^], Supervolcanos[^], Asteroid impacts[^], Pandemics[^], etc.
You forgot the modern Democratic party.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Why?
The 9/10 animal species of course.
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I disagree. First of all, it is clickbait;
"All humans are descended from just TWO people and a catastrophic event almost wiped out ALL species 100,000 years ago, scientists claim"; lets see that claim in the story, and which catastrope they talk about.
Nope; they take another well-documented extinction and talk about that. Now comes the origin of the title;
"The study has been misunderstood by some religious parties who thought it meant that we all came into being in some seminal Big Bang-typed event 100,000 ago, but this isn't what the findings actually suggest."
So, to clarify; 100.000 years ago there was an catastrophe, but they don't explain which. Yes, modern humans can be traced back to a few entities. I say a "few", because there is Neanderhtal-genes in me, and those predate your Eva which is the grandmother of modern man (so, no, a western man cannot be traced to a single adam), which makes the title wrong.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: no, a western man cannot be traced to a single adam
Surprisingly, they can: Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia[^] - possibly two or three times, as well!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Surprisingly, they can: Y-chromosomal Adam - Wikipedia[^] - possibly two or three times, as well!
No, because it requires two species.
Means genes from one man is not enough.
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From the wiki even; "By definition, it is not necessary that the Y-MRCA and the mt-MRCA should have lived at the same time."
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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You've never understood evolution, then?
Quelle surprise.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Oh look, the man who thinks he is funny has something to say. 
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Munchies_Matt wrote: this is freaky!
Why? We had to start somewhere, and it only takes two to make three. Apparently those two weren't terribly picky about what other species they helped to create. I, for one, would have recommended against them helping to procreate ticks and mosquitoes, but that's just me.
Will Rogers never met me.
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