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RickZeeland wrote: 'flattened mosquitoes'
Awesome. 
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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RickZeeland wrote: That's nothing, long ago I had to deal with VB6 software in Japanese !
That's awful! How did you manage with understanding VB6?
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Same as when you get poorly documented source code, just trial and error, takes a bit longer but eventually I always figure it out 
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One of the great things about C is that it uses symbols more than words.
(If you can trust Bing translate...)
# define wenn if
# define während while
# define fort do
# define anderes else
# define brechen break
# define weiterhin continue
# define schalter switch
# define fall case
modified 11-Mar-18 13:17pm.
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Nah, English is a piece of cake, compared with C++ intricacy.
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I'm bilingual, but my first / home language is Afrikaans (close to Dutch). All my IT study material was in English, so when I work I think in English and it's probably the same for a lot of IT professionals.
The computer terms in Afrikaans are quite funny.
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I live in Germany and am born in Russia, nowhere near English, but after a while, it becomes second nature (or third, in my case). The internet is English, the scientific and engineering communities use it and most video games are better in English that in German. After a couple years, English became so natural to me, that I even mix up German and English in my own code because I process both languages at the same level.
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English and Dutch mix well, so I imagine English and German do too (English being a Germanic language, it kind of works well anyway, and is quite amusing. Like 'f***offen', 'to go home'.  ).
But yeah, English has become the worlds language through the net and IT.
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They mix too well. I often stumble upon bullshit bingo winning entries that are basically "Let's take an English word that means vaguely what I want to say so I sound modern and management'y". Mostly from management, OFC. As someone who actually understands real English, that's rather cringeworthy.
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Especially when the non-english programmer used bad spelling and grammar naming methods. RecieveThing 
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: It just struck me
Only just?
Yes, IT is an English only discipline. And almost all IT jobs globally can be done speaking English.
I have wondered whether two programmers, of different nationality, could communicate only using programming words.
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In one project I worked on, we evaluated one open source library which had received quite favorable reviews: We would have to extend it, and all the comments and variable/function names were in French. None of the project members mastered French, so it was completely impossible to understand what the code was intended to accomplish. We had to reject it for another alternative that turned out to be not very well suited for our use.
Even if you understand the "other" language: Switching your mind back and forth between two languages, English for the reserved/predefined words and another language for names and labels, strongly affects your speed of comprehension, in a very negative way. So I always insist on one single language: If keywords are in English, so are all names, labels etc. - and also: All comments, source file names etc.
Furthermore: There should be no non-English string literals. Or phrased somewhat differently: Since the UI should be in the language of the end user, there should be no language dependent literals in the code at all! Not even English ones. Keep all strings out of the code, use string references so that the French strings can be replaced by German strings, Swedish strings, Latin strings etc. without affecting the code. (Actually, as early as in 1983 when I was working on an office automation system that strictly followed this rule, a university professor offered to translate all the UI strings to Latin. We never offered the Latin text files to the market though - we didn't have any sales office in the Vatican...) Any code module should be 100% language-agnostic, with respect to UI. Not to forget: "UI" is more than "text on the screen", it also includes e.g. database column names, which may be visible to the user through other tools.
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The same thing happens in nudist colonies.
«... thank the gods that they have made you superior to those events which they have not placed within your own control, rendered you accountable for that only which is within you own control For what, then, have they made you responsible? For that which is alone in your own power—a right use of things as they appear.» Discourses of Epictetus Book I:12
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I rarely 5 a lounge post. This is one of those that deserve it. Interesting article.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I agree, that was a very interesting perspective. That said, as someone who is bilingual (English and Malayalam) and who can understand 2 other languages (50% fluency), I am surprised that people find English to be hard. To me, it seems to be one of the simplest languages in the world.
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Thank you. 
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In 20th Century Britain we had a cunning policy of beating and ostracising children who insisted on using the Devil's tongue (Welsh). This was fairly successful in forcing many people to use God's Own Language (English).
Sadly, over the years (Political Correctness and all that) this entirely reasonable practice was abandoned because it was somehow deemed to be a form of child cruelty.
Let's face it, pretty well everybody in the galaxy and beyond speaks English (we know this from Star Trek and other sources) apart from a few billion Earthlings who insist on babbling away in some form of regional gibberish just to annoy the rest of us.
It's high time, to my mind, that we not only revive our old policy but broaden, clarify and expand it to a more generalised global concept of "Speak English or Die." Not only would we be sparing Johnny Foreigner endless confusion when programming, we'd also save ourselves countless hours on localisation projects that only exist to cater for those who cannot be bothered to comply with a simple request to learn to speak properly.
Sometimes you have to be a little cruel to be kind!
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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They don't call it a programming "language" for nothing! 
And in my experience, most American programmers/developers don't speak English, use proper grammar, or know how to spell, either.
And I are one!
"Newer" is NOT automatically better, only Different. (And more complex and bug ridden when it comes to all of the "boutique" languages / frameworks out there)
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Ed Aymami wrote: And in my experience, most American programmers/developers don't speak English, use proper grammar, or know how to spell, either.
Sure we do! You just have to set the compilation flag to "Southern."
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No, they all were from New England and the West Coast.
Just reading their resume's was torture! 
There's nothing wrong with grits (girls raised in the south) either.
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Ed Aymami wrote: There's nothing wrong with grits (girls raised in the south) either.
You haven't spent enough time in the South 
Bless their hearts...
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Almost all my life. I guess you forgot to "set the compilation flag to Southern" 
And I have been married to a southern girl for 45+ years so I can assure you that I understand better than you can possibly imagine.
One never know for sure, do one? -Fats Waller
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English is not my native language. (Spanish is my native), and I have been in the developer's area for more than 35 years. You are right, all the languages (at least all I know) are in English, and also the Frameworks (if they have these). I can read, write and speak English reasonably well and all my programs are written in Spanish:
if(UsuarioAutorizado)
{
AnalicePermisos(NombreUsuario, FechaAcceso);
}
We do not have any problems doing this. Usually Spanish is longer than English, but it does not represent a big difference. Of course, we developers must need to learn English (read at least) in order to write software.
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