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Last night, my son was taking an online test for a summer college course (on his Win10 machine) when his machine suddenly rebooted.
The machine finally came back up and the disk I/O was at 100%.
He couldn't do anything.
Microsoft antimalware exe was going crazy. He has Norton AV also so he doesn't have a (known) virus.
We tried to kill everything -- just to get back into the test which is timed. The 100% I/O persisted as we killed tasks but you can't really kill the antimalware exe which was eating up I/O like crazy.
We will simply have to upgrade him to an SSD now too.
Such a crazy h/w upgrade path that Microsoft seems to be enforcing.
I've reported these problems and even written an article here: Win10 : Examination of Disk Utilization (Includes DiscoFiles utility)[^]
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raddevus wrote: We will simply have to upgrade him to an SSD now too
or upgrade to win 7
Sin tack
the any key okay
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What was really wrong with XP?
It did pretty much everything I needed and it was stable?
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I've had MS anti-malware process running for a few days now, sucking up 30% of my CPU. And that's with SSD's. When I try to kill the process, I get "access denied." 
[edit]Followed the instructions here and rebooted, which fixed it, then Windows Imaging something or other fired up and started consuming 10% of the CPU, but fortunately was able to kill that. This stuff is ridiculous.[/edit]
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modified 22-Jun-17 8:24am.
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Interesting. I will check that out. Thanks very much.
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It's not just windows 10. I have avoided allowing MSFT AntiMalware run on my windows 7 machine.
Well, they snuck it into an update. Had to jump through the policy editor to shut it back down.
My computer used to idle at 3-5% now it idles at 15-20% It's getting crazy.
Then the IDE Tools are reaching out to their servers on startup... Taking a 6 second IDE start to 65 seconds if the internet is acting up a bit... Ughhh...
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raddevus wrote: He has Norton AV also so he doesn't have a (known) virus
Found your malware.
But on a more serious note...Why isn't the MS one disabled if you're running Norton's? Side-effects of running multiple AV solutions include exactly what you're describing...
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I thought the same thing, but the built-in antimalware on Win10 cannot be removed that I know of.
Normally, the Norton install and the OS takes care of that.
If you check out my article, you will see that there is definitely seems to be something up with Win10.
Thanks for the input.
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Removed, probably not, but it should the smarts to disable itself when it sees you're installing an alternative AV. Or rather, Norton should be registering itself as an AV so Defender should disable itself.
Try removing Norton, then reinstalling it. I'd say something didn't get triggered properly the first time around, and Defender is too dumb to realize it.
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Good points.
Well, also, Norton has been on there since he was running Win8 and then throughout the upgrade to Win10 and I believe when he upgraded to win10 he had to install Norton again.
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raddevus wrote: He has Norton AV also so he doesn't have a (known) virus.
That claim is incorrect.
No single product has a 100% capture of all known virii, and there is still the option for a false positive.
..for doing an online test you only need a browser. Buy him a raspberry Pi and the problem is fixed.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: That claim is incorrect.
Yes, yes, that claim is incorrect and I should've used even more explanatory text and legalese to insure that we could never rule out the possibility of his machine having a virus. 
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You cannot rule the possibility out of being infected by a known virus, even if you install all the major products. There is also no known anti-virus that claims a 100% detection-rate.
It is an important point to make, since some companies "expect" that they are completely safe when a virus-scanner is installed. It's like using a condom; safer then no lubber, but not a guarantee.
FWIW, even my parents laptops are running without a scanner; they don't open any email-attachments, and while they can download crap, they can't execute it. Never had any problems, and still running with their original Vista installation
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I think if the developers were forced to use the code they've written, it would be a different world. Force all Microsoft developers to use Windows 10 and see what happens when THEIR machine reboots at will.
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Tim Carmichael wrote: Force all Microsoft developers to use Windows 10 and see what happens when THEIR machine reboots at will.
Agree 100%!!!
They should definitely be forced to eat their own dogfood[^].
That's actually what makes products great.
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Talking of forced updates, has anyone experienced this?
Busy writing document/coding/browsing/whatever when machine stops responding completely. No mouse, no keyboard. Only way out is to restart it. Then loads of updates are installed, sometimes taking more than half an hour to complete.
This has happened to me on two desktop pcs and three laptops, all running WinX (pro and home).
It's an incredibly irritating behaviour especially when trying to book a flight or complete an order online.
This has never happened to my Linux box...
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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This has happened to me, my wife and my son on Win10.
My wife was in the middle of paying a bill, had just clicked the submit button -- perfect timing, Microsoft!!!
I've had the issue a couple of times in the past.
It's absolutely terrible.
My wife, a non-tech user, has asked, "why does Microsoft believe they are allowed to do this without warning me?"
That's the 64 dollar question.
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  What a disgrace.
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This is painful to watch.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Added a new association on EDMX in VS 2015. Waited for it to check out files and save. Got annoyed, went to get some coffee. Came back, it is still struggling to do that.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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At what point do you realise that it's busy trashing your production database? 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Still busy? I thought the noisome EDMX was already dead.
Immanentize the Eschaton!
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That's what baffled me. It was an independent association. It did not need to touch the DB at all. After waiting for half an hour or so, I see it had checked out and deleted everything under context. It did not create anything new. So, I was left with one EDMX file and plenty of errors in data access project as none of class files were present.
At that point, I left for home. I don't understand why are these things (burn in hell all you fancy JS libraries) popular. They are taking away my control from my code and my database. How can it be good?
Note: Now before you point that I am using .Net and I anyways have less control than C or C++, I know that and .Net framework just works unlike these things.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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The Seatbelts - Tank![^]
This song is a big band jazz piece in a Latin-infused hard bop style with a rhythm section that combines a double bass and bongo drums and also has an extensive alto saxophone solo.
Thus spoke Wikipedia, I'm not that knowledgeable about jazz
Anyway, it's the intro music to Cowboy Bebop, a legendary (and in my opinion overrated) Japanese anime series.
Overrated or not, the series got me hooked (unfortunately it's only 28 episodes).
I finished the series, but I'll be listening to the soundtrack for some time to come
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